There need not be any complaints. The idea is to have a reasonable policy in place to avoid the situation altogether.You would have to prove the facility didn't take action for legitimate complaints.
There need not be any complaints. The idea is to have a reasonable policy in place to avoid the situation altogether.
1.) you mean ONE woman.
how many guys do you think would complain that he is in the mens locker room dressed as a man and theres a VERY solid chance he likes looking at men in a sexual way
in fact since you want to talk about danger levels
who do you think is safer
A.) the women in the ladies locker room with the transgender man dressed as a woman pre or post opwho is attracted to men
B.) the transgender man attracted to men dressed as a woman pre or post op in the men in the mens locker room
2.) biologically yes he is also transgender and may not even have a penis and is most likely attracted to men. A gay, black, chrisitina man is also a man but they are also gay, black christian etc etc
the topic is about transgender
3.) transgender men? id like to see that statistic
also if we are going off of statistic to equate EXTRA meanings should we not have male coaches, doctors teachers etc that will be dealing with girls? I mean thats what I coach, i coach girls, maybe i shouldnt be allowed cause you know, stats say men are more likely sexual predators. come on Bodi you are better than that
4.) so a transgender man that wants to go into the girls locker room is a pervert? based on what?
5.) and you are free to argue that as they would be free to deny you membership
6.) they arent in danger nor need protecting in this case so im good
thier feelings i still dont care about when they are nonsensical and bigoted
if you can show me the increased danger youll have something
There is a reasonable policy in place, people can use the facilities they most identify as. If they do something that violates some actual rule, which would include harassment of some sort, then that can be complained about as a legitimate problem, and they can be addressed, including having their membership revoked or being asked to leave and not return (if a guest).
So, do those who object to a transgender woman or man being in the locker room of the gender they identify with also object to children of the opposite gender accompanying their parents into the locker rooms too? How old would you cut them off? What about those with disabilities?
Their feelings on whether they are safe are their own issue, not those who are not doing anything different than anyone else would be doing in a locker room. It is reasonable for them to feel unsafe if anyone, male or female, threatens them in some way. It is really not reasonable for a woman to feel unsafe just because there is a transgender woman or even a man in the locker room with them, especially when the majority of such places have many people in a locker room at a time. That is their own paranoia that is the problem.
Don't know. The woman said that it was obvious he was a man, despite the wig and blush. From what I read, it doesn't sound as if the complaining woman saw any parts.
You would have to prove the facility didn't take action for legitimate complaints.
This isn't Separate But Equal with black schools and white schools or a woman's gym and a men's gym, which is legal byt the way... this is gender locker rooms at a both gender gym. Nobody is saying woman can't join or use certain fitness machines... they are saying men can use women's locker rooms. Having separate locker rooms is not discrimination and you know it. :lol:
What would that accomplish?
1. It isn't all about physical safety... you are making it that way.
2. The topic is about safety
3. I didn't say transgendered men... that is your thing. I am talking about people feeling safe. There are rules in society for valid reasons...
4. Wow, talk about an invalid tangent. :lol:
6. Not bigoted in the slightest. That is ignorant and you know it.
7. Not wanting a man in the woman's locker room is not bigoted and it is insulting that people claim that it is ...
I read elsewhere that a trans person who believes she might have triggered the raging teacup storm isn't a member, but visited twice with a friend, wearing leggings and a baggy tee. Nobody complained at the time.
Here's a picture of the sick pervert who started it.
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He's wearing a dress, a wig, and an ill-fitting padded bra, but anyone can see that this is not a woman at all, but a creepy-looking man, in drag.
Shame on Pervert Fitness for letting him in the women's locker room, and disregarding the comfort, safety, and well-being of their female clients. That is absolutely inexcusable.
to cater to a sick freak who wasn't even a paying member.
Perhaps you don't fully understand the policy. Planet Fitness is fine with a man walking around the women's locker room with his obviously male junk out there for everyone to see, so long as that man says that he identifies as female.Apparently There's concern about "taking their word for it." The only way I can think to fix that is to have someone check your junk.
Agreed. I think you are like me... want to be transgendered, or whatever (as long as you don't harm others, pay your taxes, etc) then fine. Go for it. Good for you. It doesn't bother me in the slightest. In many ways I am happy that they are happy with themselves. Want to then take your gender confusion and push it on others and then complain when they don't like it... THAT is the crap that I can't stand.
Not paranoia. Just reasonable levels of feeling safe. Like I said, I would not want a woman in the mens room for any reason.
I can remember when the cry of the wicked was “Don't force your morality on me!”
Now, the wicked force their immorality on everyone else.
That's what happens when you give in to evil, drawing a line, and hoping they'll stop there. They don't stop.
Perhaps you don't fully understand the policy. Planet Fitness is fine with a man walking around the women's locker room with his obviously male junk out there for everyone to see, so long as that man says that he identifies as female.
1.)there's nothing apparent about it in this story. One lady complained, was given an answer and complained some more and broke policies herself until herself booted
it was not inevitable THAT would happen
2.) uhm in this case its still not an issue except fot eh lady that got herself booted
3..) thats possible, reading policies could have also did that . . maybe
4.) guess that possible too but there no evidence of it, theres more evidence the lady that got the boot wanted the spotlight
1. It isn't all about physical safety... you are making it that way.
2. The topic is about safety
3. I didn't say transgendered men... that is your thing. I am talking about people feeling safe. There are rules in society for valid reasons...
4. Wow, talk about an invalid tangent. :lol:
5. Not bigoted in the slightest. That is ignorant and you know it. Not wanting a man in the woman's locker room is not bigoted and it is insulting that people claim that it is ...
1.)If it weren't an issue we wouldn't be having this discussion.
2.) I just think that changes are happening and it's better to make them happen smoothly and easily.
3.) Try to prevent confrontation.
4.) It would have been so easy to put up signs stating their policy and it would have shown respect for all their clients.
5.) If they had, we probably wouldn't be having this discussion.
Well, actually, it is discrimination, but some discrimination is legitimate, proper, and necessary; and the separation of men's and women's dressing facilities certainly falls under that category.
As I said before, that's pretty much a standard wrong-wing refuge to try to save a hopelessly-failing argument—to accuse one's adversary of bigotry, or to claim that the opposing argument is based on bigotry.
The pro-pervert crowd tries to claim that all objective standards of morality or decency are bigotry.
Why? Would men like you not protect them? Do you think it is okay for men to attack in some way a woman in the men's locker room? Do you think it is okay for men to attack other men in the men's locker room?
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