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I know I'm an anarchist and all, but as long as the government is going to exist upholding the law is kind of important to me.
ok. let's unconstitutionally put the ****ing cameras on the ****ing cops.
I know I'm an anarchist and all, but as long as the government is going to exist upholding the law is kind of important to me.
Not at all, I have been on point since the beginning. I stated that the opinions of cops should be taken with a grain of salt just like those of the military. :shrug: You seem to have taken issue with the part that crime wasn't rising. I challenged you to step up like a man and debate your ideas. You've been running every post since.
So, no debate?
Step up like a man on the internet, LOL. The perfect summary of a liberal.
Erod, debate?
Not in the mood.
Do you stalk your women like this, too?
Philly Mayor: ‘You Have Some Police Officers Who are Increasingly Afraid of the Community’ « CBS St. Louis
That, or black officer will be assigned to black neighborhoods, and whites to white neighborhoods. How racially divided does that sound?
requiring cameras on officers creates a worse problem? how does that work?
The fatal flaw in that logic- there just aren't enough black cops. And that isn't likely to change. what black kid would want to be a cop when he is growing up in a culture that demonizes the police?What would be wrong with assigning black officers to black neighborhoods? We've been preached to that, "OMG!!! That's raaacist!" if they're white officers in a black neighborhood. And, if we were to assign black officers to black neighborhoods? We'd be hearing, "OMG!!! That's raaacist!"
I don't think we fully understand what happens to officers who are hit with the charges that Ferguson's cop was hit with. Their lives are ruined.
If black neighborhoods don't trust white cops? Don't put white cops in the street.
I've been watching COPS this morning while on computer. Almost every single arrest, white or black, the perp is yelling, "I can't breath! OMG! I have allergies! I have a back injury! You're killin' me, man!" Saw one guy (white) get arrested after a foot chase and being tased that, when escorted in cuffs to the patrol car for transport, banged his head against the roof of the squad car hard enough that he could've knocked himself out. Just a little insurance, I'd imagine. Apparently he was too stupid to know there were two TV cameras pointed at him at the time.
It's a huge problem. I don't know the solution. But I wouldn't be a cop today for nuthin'.
Women? Happily married. The best part is that I've made you look like the intellectually deficient debater that you are and I didn't even have to work up a sweat.Now move along, we've got no time for those who put their cowardice on full display.
Because you have to skirt the Constitution to do what you want, leaving that hole open for all sorts of future abuse. And that's just the first hurdle. Do you seriously believe the NSA won't have access to the daily camera take? Really? How is this different than adding a million drones to the public sector filming 24/7/365? Then there's the who's going to pay question. Federal mandates to the states will only come with insufficient startup funding. A year down the line, county and city budgets that are already stretched to the breaking will be well and truly broken. What sort of tradeoffs in policing does that create? It won't be pretty.
Perhaps that is what is needed to be done.
Doesn't sound much like racial harmony, does it?
No, they want the segregation, they just don't want the man to tell them they have to.
Straw man. No one wants that.
Sure they do...Don't kid yourself...And it's not a strawman...I didn't claim that anyone here argued that.
Btw, how do you hire for that and not run afoul of just about every anti-discrimination law on the books?
I haven't seen any reports of people wanting to reinstate segregation anywhere.
Oh, you want a report on my opinion? Wow, I had no idea you thought I was so important....
No, they want the segregation, they just don't want the man to tell them they have to.
Doesn't sound much like racial harmony, does it?
There certainly are race baitors out there that magnify the problem....absolutely. But I also don't think is fair to characterize the communities as "not willing to work with the police force". For many years I lived in the West Adams Area of Los Angeles, a historic area technically at the far nothern end of South Central. We had lots of crime issues, but by and large the community was extremely supportive of the police and didn't harbor criminals...and in my experience most have good relationships with the police and believe MOST of the police are good cops, not racists. But there are definitely cops in the area that manufacture "probable cause" on a daily basis to stop and frisk for no reason. This is what pisses people off. The cops can say that they are doing so for all the right reasons, but when you disrespect a community in the name of keep the community safer, you are going to have blowback.
That infographic really steers in the wrong direction. It implies that the violence in Chicago is the result of gang-activity, which it isn't really. "Gangs" as you would traditional define them are your Latin Kings, Vice Lords, Gangster Disciples, etc., etc. The big groups of organized criminals that deal drugs, pimp or what have you. In Chicago that doesn't really exist anymore, because the CPD has been incredibly effective in cleaning it up. It's almost non-existent now to the levels that it used to be.
Instead what is driving crime and Chicago's homicides are teenagers (which the infographic does indicates) that have formed 'gangs' that are more resembling of high-school cliques than actual gangs. The fights aren't over who get to deal crack where, but rather it's over high school drama, relationships, petty crime and who's dissing each other on Twitter that ends up turning into shootings and revenge killings. The police aren't able to control that type of behavior like they were able to do with "big gangs."
It's not a video game.
The 300 million, if it comes at all, will be in the form of grants and will not fund the programs continuing on. My home county fell for that a couple times. Took federal grants to hire new officers. A year later, the federal funding was gone and the layoffs began.
yeah, i think the cameras should be on all police officers. enough of this ****. it protects both sides, and is just a common sense solution. i don't see any reason not to do it.
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