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Pfizer says its Covid pill with HIV drug cuts the risk of hospitalization or death by 89%

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Pfizer says its Covid pill with HIV drug cuts the risk of hospitalization or death by 89%

Pfizer said its Covid-19 pill, used with an HIV drug, cut the risk of hospitalization or death by 89% in high-risk adults who've been exposed to the virus.
www.cnbc.com

This is another bit of amazing news. Works much better than the Merck drug, and will really be a solid treatment early on in COVID for high risk or unvaxxed people.

This fast development may be a record in small molecule drug development- within two years of discovery, we have a oral tablet that is very effective in minimizing complications.
 
Good news.

This could effectively end all this "vaccine mandate" nonsense.
 

Evil greedy pharma company.
 
Cool. Hope it's cheap and effective and safe.
 

News like this gives me hope.
 
roguenuke said:
So then no concern about long term side effects with this?
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"long term" isn't an issue for me at my age. I'll leave the side effect issue to the scientific community to worry about.

However, I may not bother with future COVID vaccines if there's a highly effective drug to combat the virus if I ever get infected.
 
roguenuke said:
So then no concern about long term side effects with this?
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It’s a short term use drug. With 9000 participants in the trial, we should get a pretty good idea of safety, snd long term safety shouldn’t be much of an issue if there’s no signal of anything serious happening in the short term.
 
Sounds more hopeful than horse dewormer, aquarium cleaner, and black light dildos.
 
Threegoofs said:
Not sure why any idiot would want to get a drug to treat a disease vs a safe vaccine that prevents it.
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The vaccine doesn't prevent the disease. It reduces the severity of the disease.

If I have a medicine that removes the severity of the disease...if I get infected...why do I need the vaccine?
 
An ounce of prevention is highly useful as a phrase here.

If the complaint about vaccines is mainly centered around the potential for long term side effects, then that same complaint should apply to this as well. Prevention is better than reaction though. Which means that you get the vaccine then, if that doesn't actually prevent Covid (because few vaccines are even 95% effective, particularly after only 1-2 doses), then you use this. Layered effectiveness, response.
 
Threegoofs said:
It’s a short term use drug. With 9000 participants in the trial, we should get a pretty good idea of safety, snd long term safety shouldn’t be much of an issue if there’s no signal of anything serious happening in the short term.
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I honestly have no issue with this drug. I hope it gets approved and is used, if it really is effective.

My only complaint here is about the hypocrisy of some when they are against the vaccines, and complain about the potential long term side effects of the vaccines, when this too is a new drug with potential long term side effects that would be unknown.
 
Mycroft said:
The vaccine doesn't prevent the disease. It reduces the severity of the disease.

If I have a medicine that removes the severity of the disease...if I get infected...why do I need the vaccine?
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No, it prevents contracting the disease. By a substantial amount. It also reduces the severity of the disease. By a substantial amount.

And it does the same in patients who have gotten COVID.

You think these facts would have sunk in by now.
 
I'm not complaining about the vaccine.
 
roguenuke said:
You are complaining about vaccine mandates in that post.
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No. I didn't complain about anything.

I simply observed that this medication could effectively end vaccine mandates.
 
Mycroft said:
No. I didn't complain about anything.

I simply observed that this medication could effectively end vaccine mandates.
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No, it shouldn't. Vaccines should be mandated despite this because prevention is better than having people on medication, especially when it is also likely cheaper as well.

We actually have a smallpox treatment now. Does that mean that we should not mandate the smallpox vaccine be first line of defense if we ever saw a resurgence of smallpox?

Now that we have better medicine and treatments available, 3D printers and other tech that could restore lost limbs or fix broken organs or treat any sort of injury that happens 95% of the time (goal, hypothetical) does that mean we should no longer worry about safety measures anywhere, allow people to drive far over the speed limit, without seatbelts, no need for airbags or driver's licenses because we can fix most injuries?
 
I agree. The info age has really pushed us forward by making it possible to accurately track the stages of an event before they begin. That's the best I can describe it, I got me three shots as soon as I could, so did my wife and we are fine and really, as I said, grateful.
 
Mycroft said:
Good news.

This could effectively end all this "vaccine mandate" nonsense.
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Would it not be better just to get the free vaccines and not have to worry about taking pills to temper the illness?
 
SCrider said:
Would it not be better just to get the free vaccines and not have to worry about taking pills to temper the illness?
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shrug...some people will agree with you and some won't.

People will have a choice and we won't need any mandates.
 
Mycroft said:
shrug...some people will agree with you and some won't.

People will have a choice and we won't need any mandates.
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The mandates are in place already. And there is little chance that they aren't going to be coming to schools as well once it is fully approved for children of school age.
 
roguenuke said:
The mandates are in place already. And there is little chance that they aren't going to be coming to schools as well once it is fully approved for children of school age.
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So...are you satisfied with a fait accompli?
 
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