The worrisome part is that he could use the same rationalization to justify lethal force.
I thought they were told to disperse?
Sure:
You believe these people, though they were sitting on the ground in docile positions with their arms locked, deserved to be pepper sprayed in the face because the cause they are protesting is not valid. Popular sentiment in 1955 was that the cause Rosa Parks was protesting was not valid either, ergo Rosa Parks should get pepper sprayed in the face when she refuses to leave her seat and the cops have to be called.
If the opinion of a protest determines its validity, and therefore its right to exist, then Rosa Parks would definitely be pepper sprayed. Moreover, those kinds of things did happen to civil rights protesters in the (as a previous poster pointed out).
I thought they were told to disperse?
I thought Rosa Parks was told to move from her seat? Are you going to answer my question?
You said:
"j-mac, you don't agree with the protests, but that doesn't change the fact that you think Rosa Parks should have been sprayed in the face with mace for civil disobedience."
Now either apologize for lying about what I wrote, or I have no choice under the rules but to report it.
j-mac
Lets not even go into the fact that ones way more legitimate...
You said:
"j-mac, you don't agree with the protests, but that doesn't change the fact that you think Rosa Parks should have been sprayed in the face with mace for civil disobedience."
Now either apologize for lying about what I wrote, or I have no choice under the rules but to report it.
j-mac
Why not shoot them in the head? I mean...if the officers told them they were going to shoot them in the head and they chose to stick around, then the officers would be justified in shooting them in the heads, right?
Says you. But who died and made you God of Protest?
there may have been, there may not have been. Are you really calling me a racist because I don't support OWS?
j-mac
Lets not even go into the fact that ones way more legitimate... These protesters have been doing this for way to long... I think everybody has heard what they had to say. Now its becoming stupid. Its not like its their first day and they were told to leave this has been, I think, two months. So no you can't relate this **** to Rosa Parks.
Yeah, why not?
Uhh... The god before me?
Ignorant would be the right word. Ignorant in that you believe you have the ability to invalidate a peaceful protest, and, at the same time, validate violence used against them because you have invalidated their movement. That's some circuclar logic there, I agree.
That does not make any sense.
Lets not even go into the fact that ones way more legitimate... These protesters have been doing this for way to long... I think everybody has heard what they had to say. Now its becoming stupid. Its not like its their first day and they were told to leave this has been, I think, two months. So no you can't relate this **** to Rosa Parks.
The protest Friday was held in support of the overall Occupy Wall Street movement and in solidarity with protesters at the University of California, Berkeley who were jabbed by police with batons on Nov. 9.
So no one. Thus even if you feel one protest is more "legitimate" than another does not give you authority to excuse government force against protest and assembly.
Lets not even go into the fact that ones way more legitimate... These protesters have been doing this for way to long... I think everybody has heard what they had to say. Now its becoming stupid. Its not like its their first day and they were told to leave this has been, I think, two months. So no you can't relate this **** to Rosa Parks.
Really? Are you honestly saying that officers would have the right to shoot the protesters in the head if they warned them beforehand that they would if they didn't leave? Or are you just being facetious?
Oh, we have another guy here who can decide the validity of a movement! Wow, good to have you! :thumbs: Now, actually, this is at Berkley, so I am not aware of how long they were there and I doubt you are either. In fact, by a quick search, I believe this was a one-day protest:
Berkeley president calls pepper spray incident 'appalling'
Again, it is not your job to determine the validity of the movement, and while you are of course entitled to your opinion, your opinion does not allow for excessive police force either.
They were told to disperse. They didn't, and they were met with what was told to them would happen. Too bad.
j-mac
Good point, the civil rights movement was an overnight protest.
What is excessive about it? Tell me when surrounded with agitated (by your own words) protesters what should they have done....Said pretty please?
j-mac
lol, talking about Rosa Parks being told to leave... not the civil rights protest. In the civil rights protest they didn't occupy streets for long periods of time. Now, did they?
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