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Pentagon plan would create military ‘reaction force’ for civil unrest

Integrityrespec said:
When the liberals running the city can't get the job done. Crime in blue cities is ridiculously high. D.C. has the highest murder per capita in America. D.C. is on pace to have 13 fewer murders than last year (187). And they will still have the highest per capita murder rate.
www.whitehouse.gov

FACT: Yes, D.C. Crime Is Out of Control

Washington, D.C. should be a symbol of pride and patriotism for the American people — and a safe location for tourists, residents, and public servants.
www.whitehouse.gov www.whitehouse.gov
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So is the national guard the best choice? Prove it
 
reinaert said:
We are, sadly, going to be sorting this out the hard way. It should be remembered that the rules of the hard way are entirely foreign to most Americans, and that all the taking advantage of polite society and institutions gets much, much more difficult, and comes with a cataloged of diminishing returns.
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Most people have forgotten why polite society integrity and statesmanship exist in the first place.
 
Ikari said:
Commies just doing what commies do.
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On February 24th, 2022, I joined Truth Social. It was a few weeks later when some yahoo showed up to claim Nazis are leftists, and the nascent Groyper Army went berserk. Poor guy was run-out on a rail.

In short, if you ever decide to join the 21st century and advocate for white nationalism by opening a Truth Social account, please don't call MAGA commies.

Thank you for your attention to this matter!

MAGA.
 
Bonnot said:
What makes you think the RW will allow the Dems to win in 28 and will give up power?

What do you think this sort of shit is for?
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Oh I suspect we will have a Constitutional Crisis before then. But I'm not worried. As soon as we do, I figure the Russians and Chinese will fire Nuclear Missiles.
 
Mr Person said:
This is prep for when he moves to seize power and kill the last vestiges of republic.


It'll look like this: increasingly provocative major moves at an increasing pace, done with the hope of triggering massive widespread protests about the country. Then use deployment of this whatever it is to further ramp up the offense to the 'republic'. And then, finally, declare martial law.

I no longer thing I'm simply a pessimist. If we have midterms in 2026, they won't be explicitly rigged in terms of votes being changed. But they seem to want to gerrymander it every which way. They've already thoroughly infested the election systems in red and purple states to the extent they can. They'll be trying to throw every last vote out they can't. Etc.

But by 2028? There very well may not be a 2028 election, and it's not clear what any one individual can do about it. Nor will using the internet to organize doing something about it be safe as any plan to seize power permanently gets closer. The NSA shit has been going on since Bush Jr. All it would really take to permanently crush any chance of overthrowing a dictatorial coup is to fully copy China's mass surveillance, adopt it's 'social status' rating system, etc.
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Yep, and I think the stage is being set for just that.


McGrath, the former tech executive, said it is true that both Democratic and Republican administrations have provided work to Palantir, since it has cemented a reputation in Washington for cutting-edge surveillance and data-mining tech.

"Their platforms can pull together information from tax returns, employment information, their immigration status, how many children they have, whether their children are legal or illegal. And then layer AI on top of that and predict movements and patterns. That can be a big asset. It also can be a big risk," he said.
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Palantir is just one company. There's Amazon, Meta, and others, obviously, who are in the space of AI and data aggregation. It's true that the federal government has had pretty much every important fact or detail about you and me in their hands for quite some time. Snowden's leaks revealed the mass collection of our digital data. We give our data to the IRS and other agencies. Up to now, though, individuals within the government couldn't just access that data. They had to have a reason for it, and even if someone wanted to abuse that power and just ignore procedures, it has typically been the case that different agencies have different types of information. But that's changing, and it's not just the information they have, but the ease with which that info can be pulled up and compiled into a report or conclusion that gives government officials the ability to monitor what you do and track you down quickly. We're not there yet, but give it time.

I'd probably feel slightly better about things if I felt the courts and the congress would be a check, but I no longer have confidence in either. Nor do I have confidence in the billionaire vendors to protect our privacy or our rights, particularly when this is being transacted as business-to-government business. Their higher obligation is with their investors, not the consumer-citizen.

I am somewhat optimistic we will have elections. I just don't know what they look like in 2028 and 2030 and beyond - like who would be eligible to vote? Would the Democratic party be put on a terrorist watch list and would donors be prosecuted for material support of a terrorist organization? That's probably far-fetched, but anything short of that is still problematic.
 
multivita-man said:
Yep, and I think the stage is being set for just that.




Palantir is just one company. There's Amazon, Meta, and others, obviously, who are in the space of AI and data aggregation. It's true that the federal government has had pretty much every important fact or detail about you and me in their hands for quite some time. Snowden's leaks revealed the mass collection of our digital data. We give our data to the IRS and other agencies. Up to now, though, individuals within the government couldn't just access that data. They had to have a reason for it, and even if someone wanted to abuse that power and just ignore procedures, it has typically been the case that different agencies have different types of information. But that's changing, and it's not just the information they have, but the ease with which that info can be pulled up and compiled into a report or conclusion that gives government officials the ability to monitor what you do and track you down quickly. We're not there yet, but give it time.

I'd probably feel slightly better about things if I felt the courts and the congress would be a check, but I no longer have confidence in either. Nor do I have confidence in the billionaire vendors to protect our privacy or our rights, particularly when this is being transacted as business-to-government business. Their higher obligation is with their investors, not the consumer-citizen.

I am somewhat optimistic we will have elections. I just don't know what they look like in 2028 and 2030 and beyond - like who would be eligible to vote? Would the Democratic party be put on a terrorist watch list and would donors be prosecuted for material support of a terrorist organization? That's probably far-fetched, but anything short of that is still problematic.
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Philip K. Dick > Nostradamus, a trillion times over.
 
It's to the point now the Generalissimo Trump is president and commander in chief again so he wants to turn the National Guard into the Mexican Army that has few if any restrictions on its use domestically. He will fail but not without trying fanatically.

The active duty armed forces have made clear to Trump they will not do his mass deportation madness and that they will not do Trump's vile mass roundup of his "enemies within" liberals and democrats / Democrats.

So now the Generalissimo is trying to work the National Guard into it as if the Guard were the Mexican Army in the streets and cities as His occupation force watching us. The good news is that this isn't going to last too long either before it too goes bust on Him.
 
ncguy said:
In a position to be called as needed for widespread violent riots?
Nothing to do with today of course
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Then there is nothing to be worried about.
 
Athanasius68 said:
Jan 6 2021. The stories shouldn't be too hard to find.
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Trump already pardoned all those criminals so it was resolved to his satisfaction.
 
Napoleon said:
Inadequate. See the Insurrection Act.
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The active duty military armed forces can remain in the barracks. They almost surely will remain in the barracks because nothing about Trump is valid or legitimate. And because Trump is a dictator and the active duty armed forces are opposed to dictatorship. Further, the active duty armed forces are historically and presently antifascist. The same is true of the National Guard Army/Air Force.

The armed forces remaining in the barracks is passive, peaceful, not a coup per se and it gives the public time to respond against Trump and the Insurrection Act as Trump would exploit and abuse it. No generals and admirals would accept being fired buy Trump which in domestic matters would secure the armed forces as being for the people and openly against Trump. Indeed, your smug post confirms you know nothing about the armed forces, the same as Trump knows nothing about 'em.

You need to recognize and realize how the armed forces think which your posts cannot do. All MAGAs know is their blind loyalty to Putin-Trump, dictatorship and their 21st Century Uniquely American Fascism. Trump being elected as an anti Constitutional fascist dictator does nothing for him vis a vis the armed forces who are sworn and dedicated to the Constitution. Indeed, the institutions of USA society, culture, civilization are not holding.
 
Napoleon said:
You don’t want the boot. Stop giving Trump a reason to use it by being petulant violent anarchists. And if you can’t then he’ll do it for you.
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I look forward to your smug posts going into a state of shock when the time comes which it necessarily will for all of us. The armed forces will remain in the barracks and the generals and admirals will refuse to be fired by the Generalissimo -- their oath gives the officer corps the legal and Constitutional right to refuse. Neither MAGAs nor Trump know anything about the armed forces, what they can do, what they will do. Nothing, as your smug and complacent posts prove.
 
I can't imagine military leaders are pleased about troops being used on their fellow citizens.
 
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