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I actually find it completely believable you could yank a Tomahawk launcher out of a submarine, put it on a truck, and wire it up to fire in three weeks.
From Associated Press
Pentagon conducts 1st test of previously banned missile
WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. military has conducted a flight test of a type of missile banned for more than 30 years by a treaty that both the United States and Russia abandoned this month, the Pentagon said.
The test off the coast of California on Sunday marked the resumption of an arms competition that some analysts worry could increase U.S.-Russian tensions. The Trump administration has said it remains interested in useful arms control but questions Moscow’s willingness to adhere to its treaty commitments.
The Pentagon said it tested a modified ground-launched version of a Navy Tomahawk cruise missile, which was launched from San Nicolas Island and accurately struck its target after flying more than 500 kilometers (310 miles). The missile was armed with a conventional, not nuclear, warhead.
Defense officials had said last March that this missile likely would have a range of about 1,000 kilometers (620 miles) and that it might be ready for deployment within 18 months.
COMMENT:-
While the Russians have been violating the INF treaty for years by secretly working on banned missiles, American creativity and ingenuity has been able to produce these missiles in a mere three weeks <SARC>
since America had conducted absolutely no development work on them until after the Russians destroyed the INF treaty by unilaterally abrogating it</SARC>.
Right?
From Associated Press
Pentagon conducts 1st test of previously banned missile
WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. military has conducted a flight test of a type of missile banned for more than 30 years by a treaty that both the United States and Russia abandoned this month, the Pentagon said.
The test off the coast of California on Sunday marked the resumption of an arms competition that some analysts worry could increase U.S.-Russian tensions. The Trump administration has said it remains interested in useful arms control but questions Moscow’s willingness to adhere to its treaty commitments.
The Pentagon said it tested a modified ground-launched version of a Navy Tomahawk cruise missile, which was launched from San Nicolas Island and accurately struck its target after flying more than 500 kilometers (310 miles). The missile was armed with a conventional, not nuclear, warhead.
Defense officials had said last March that this missile likely would have a range of about 1,000 kilometers (620 miles) and that it might be ready for deployment within 18 months.
COMMENT:-
While the Russians have been violating the INF treaty for years by secretly working on banned missiles, American creativity and ingenuity has been able to produce these missiles in a mere three weeks <SARC>
since America had conducted absolutely no development work on them until after the Russians destroyed the INF treaty by unilaterally abrogating it</SARC>.
Right?
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Eternal turn of the wheel. The arms race will escalate, again.
But....there's no money for healthcare. Some people have very messed up priorities imo.
It’s a weapons system that already exists. The guidance system and flight characteristics are all in the missile, presumably unchanged. There are already air-launched and sea-launched versions. Ground based is simpler by far. You could get by with just a big metal tube welded to a truck and a wire connecting to the booster rocket.
Edit: looking at photos, this is literally what they did. Rectangular metal tube bolted to a flatbed.
I believe medicare and medicaid combined exceed the DoD budget
It’s a weapons system that already exists. The guidance system and flight characteristics are all in the missile, presumably unchanged. There are already air-launched and sea-launched versions. Ground based is simpler by far. You could get by with just a big metal tube welded to a truck and a wire connecting to the booster rocket.
Edit: looking at photos, this is literally what they did. Rectangular metal tube bolted to a flatbed.
From Associated Press
Pentagon conducts 1st test of previously banned missile
WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. military has conducted a flight test of a type of missile banned for more than 30 years by a treaty that both the United States and Russia abandoned this month, the Pentagon said.
The test off the coast of California on Sunday marked the resumption of an arms competition that some analysts worry could increase U.S.-Russian tensions. The Trump administration has said it remains interested in useful arms control but questions Moscow’s willingness to adhere to its treaty commitments.
The Pentagon said it tested a modified ground-launched version of a Navy Tomahawk cruise missile, which was launched from San Nicolas Island and accurately struck its target after flying more than 500 kilometers (310 miles). The missile was armed with a conventional, not nuclear, warhead.
Defense officials had said last March that this missile likely would have a range of about 1,000 kilometers (620 miles) and that it might be ready for deployment within 18 months.
COMMENT:-
While the Russians have been violating the INF treaty for years by secretly working on banned missiles, American creativity and ingenuity has been able to produce these missiles in a mere three weeks <SARC>
since America had conducted absolutely no development work on them until after the Russians destroyed the INF treaty by unilaterally abrogating it</SARC>.
Right?
I actually find it completely believable you could yank a Tomahawk launcher out of a submarine, put it on a truck, and wire it up to fire in three weeks.
From Associated Press
Pentagon conducts 1st test of previously banned missile
WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. military has conducted a flight test of a type of missile banned for more than 30 years by a treaty that both the United States and Russia abandoned this month, the Pentagon said.
The test off the coast of California on Sunday marked the resumption of an arms competition that some analysts worry could increase U.S.-Russian tensions. The Trump administration has said it remains interested in useful arms control but questions Moscow’s willingness to adhere to its treaty commitments.
The Pentagon said it tested a modified ground-launched version of a Navy Tomahawk cruise missile, which was launched from San Nicolas Island and accurately struck its target after flying more than 500 kilometers (310 miles). The missile was armed with a conventional, not nuclear, warhead.
Defense officials had said last March that this missile likely would have a range of about 1,000 kilometers (620 miles) and that it might be ready for deployment within 18 months.
COMMENT:-
While the Russians have been violating the INF treaty for years by secretly working on banned missiles, American creativity and ingenuity has been able to produce these missiles in a mere three weeks <SARC>
since America had conducted absolutely no development work on them until after the Russians destroyed the INF treaty by unilaterally abrogating it</SARC>.
Right?
From Associated Press
Pentagon conducts 1st test of previously banned missile
WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. military has conducted a flight test of a type of missile banned for more than 30 years by a treaty that both the United States and Russia abandoned this month, the Pentagon said.
The test off the coast of California on Sunday marked the resumption of an arms competition that some analysts worry could increase U.S.-Russian tensions. The Trump administration has said it remains interested in useful arms control but questions Moscow’s willingness to adhere to its treaty commitments.
The Pentagon said it tested a modified ground-launched version of a Navy Tomahawk cruise missile, which was launched from San Nicolas Island and accurately struck its target after flying more than 500 kilometers (310 miles). The missile was armed with a conventional, not nuclear, warhead.
Defense officials had said last March that this missile likely would have a range of about 1,000 kilometers (620 miles) and that it might be ready for deployment within 18 months.
COMMENT:-
While the Russians have been violating the INF treaty for years by secretly working on banned missiles, American creativity and ingenuity has been able to produce these missiles in a mere three weeks <SARC>
since America had conducted absolutely no development work on them until after the Russians destroyed the INF treaty by unilaterally abrogating it</SARC>.
Right?
The Russians have been violating this treaty for a while. I however don't want an arms race with Intermediate nuclear weapons.
The Russians just created a disaster when one of their nuclear powered cruise missiles crashed and killed 7 scientists, while also spreading nuclear material over a wide area.
Indeed they did (although the correct term is "technical testing incident").
Since we now know that the Russians are working on engines that would allow their cruise missiles to approach the United States of America from any direction (up from the South Pole and over Mexico for example), you can be sure that defence R&D spending is going to positively zoom as (on the assumption that the Russians MIGHT succeed) the US is going to have to ring all of its borders with sufficient anti-missile defences to positively ensure that not a single Russian cruise missile could (even theoretically) get to the United States of America.
The one thing that you do have to remember about that is that that defence cost is going to have to be borne REGARDLESS of whether the Russians actually build any cruise missiles equipped with nuclear powered engines.
I won't tell you that the US "won the Cold War" by having the USSR spend itself into oblivion (and one of the methods was to develop potential threats that the USSR had to spend a whole lot more money defending against than the US had to spend to keep the potential threat viable) because that would be letting the Russians in on something that they are totally ignorant of and might try if they did know about it.
PS - That increase in defence R&D has to be paid for somehow. Can you guess whose pockets the money to pay for it is going to come? [ASIDE - I don't think that you are actually going to hear "America is going to build an impregnable wall against Russian missiles and the Russians are going to pay for it.".
What's the point? So, even if the Russians can use a cruise missile to hit the U.S., that's not anything they can't do now with an ICBM in 20 minutes.
The same response from the U.S. -- nuclear retaliation.
What would be better spending is systems that can better detect slow flying (about 600 mph) cruise missiles. Given that they would take hours to reach their targets, they could be easily intercepted if detected.
Strangely enough, this "new system" is almost precisely what the Russians had been complaining about when they accused the US of "violating the terms of the INF treaty" by developing "ground launched" missiles that were banned by the INF treaty.
This, however, is NOT to say that the Russians were ALSO doing the same sort of "violation".
Tomahawks are not new.
That is what he was getting at, the system is new, not the missile
The "system" is a flatbed truck and a metal box. It is also not new.
The combining of them is. Or it would have been a violation of the INF. That is what TE was trying to say
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