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If you are in any ocean, on a ship, Russia is not your biggest threat.
Go through the Straights of Hormuz and say that Russia or China are the biggest threat. We don't hang out off the coast of Russia watching for things to happen. The Cole wasnt hit by Russians or Chinese.
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Yes shame on liberals for not seeing the future. Putin's invasion of Ukraine, sending hit squads to Democratic nations and interfering in our elections to help Trump win all came after Obama's comment about Romney.
We knew Putin was going to be reelected considering the polls at the time because Medvedev was seen to be a puppet by the entire world,
Go back and read the articles.
Did you read what you posted? Exactly what I'm saying is that Sailors, Marines, Soldiers are worried, concerned about the immediate threat, see the immediate threat as the more important, more dangerous threats. E1 through E5/6 arent concerned about the potential long game Russia is playing. Which is why the average Servicemembers would not view Russia as a threat. The Pentagon and intelligence community however would. Which is why their training changed in the last couple years only to put China and Russia in the forefront as threats, over the more immediate threats that are still out there.You totally missed the entire point.
Troops and Sailors are worried about the immediate threats to them...................not just about what is possible. To say that troops and sailors are lackidasical about the Russins.........is total BS.
Ask the Pentagon why we spend billions of dollars every year to build better subs and ships to stay one up Russia?
Of course terrorism is the number one issue that our military people face today, but if you think that our troops and sailors disregard Russia, then you are very naive.
OH....by the way. We do stay off the coast of Russia and China. 24/7/365
Did you read what you posted? Exactly what I'm saying is that Sailors, Marines, Soldiers are worried, concerned about the immediate threat, see the immediate threat as the more important, more dangerous threats. E1 through E5/6 arent concerned about the potential long game Russia is playing. Which is why the average Servicemembers would not view Russia as a threat. The Pentagon and intelligence community however would. Which is why their training changed in the last couple years only to put China and Russia in the forefront as threats, over the more immediate threats that are still out there.
But that doesnt change the fact that for the last 20 years at least we did not actually Russia as a serious threat, not until very recently and the article points out correctly how Russia can and has taken a little advantage of that which is going to take time to turn around.
18-26 year old average Sailors, Marines, Soldiers are not going to think of the long game, spies as a more serious, concerning, dangerous threat than the one that is actually shooting at them, running ships into them, straight up openly threatening them.
And the majority of our fleets hang out in the Persian Gulf. We just recently started hanging out far out from China. Mainly due to North Korea, and to an extent China, but not really threatening Russia. The majority of Sailors haven't come close to Russia.
This is coming from a Sailor who has been in in the last 20 years, for the last 20 years. I was in the Gulf when the Cole was hit.
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Tangmo........you can be worse than my 13 year old dog farts some times.
You totally missed the entire point.
Troops and Sailors are worried about the immediate threats to them...................not just about what is possible. To say that troops and sailors are lackidasical about the Russins.........is total BS.
Ask the Pentagon why we spend billions of dollars every year to build better subs and ships to stay one up Russia?
Of course terrorism is the number one issue that our military people face today, but if you think that our troops and sailors disregard Russia, then you are very naive.
OH....by the way. We do stay off the coast of Russia and China. 24/7/365
You totally missed the entire point.
Troops and Sailors are worried about the immediate threats to them...................not just about what is possible. To say that troops and sailors are lackidasical about the Russins.........is total BS.
Ask the Pentagon why we spend billions of dollars every year to build better subs and ships to stay one up Russia?
Of course terrorism is the number one issue that our military people face today, but if you think that our troops and sailors disregard Russia, then you are very naive.
OH....by the way. We do stay off the coast of Russia and China. 24/7/365
Putin owns Trump.
Putin owns the majority of the livestock in the US Senate.
Putin owns completely all the GOP herd in the US House.
You appear ignorant of the whole of it or you are ignoring it for some specific goal and purpose. You as an extremist right wing retired veteran of a career in the USN need to declare which it is, given Right Wingers in the US such as yourself adore, admire and follow the lead of Vladimir Putin, ie, Donald Trump.
You appear not to know that one who criticizes liberals while giving the Right Wing Putin-Trump Rowers a free ride becomes suspect immediately.
This bit of psychobabble seems to have Putin confused with AIPAC.
Talk about confused you're the guy who volunteered to go fight in Vietnam.
I asked you which side you volunteered for and you told me but I don't remember so refresh my memory again plse thx.
1. He was disgraced? Tell that to all of Trump's cohorts in jail.You still on the foreign power train? Mueller and his report were disgraced. There was no Russian election influence Hillary lost because she was a terrible candidate. And she may have another chance I hope.
Which side? What are my choices here in this fantasy hypothetical?
You're apparently more confused than you had let on.
Russia hasn't done anything directly against the US in ages. Against other countries, yes. But Iran and NK have done much more. Even China has been more openly aggressive towards us in the last 2 decades.
And Russia has recently adopted some Christian/conservative policies that some in the military agree with.
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I've read the thread. The OP states that Russia is building up sympathy, essentially downplaying it's own threat level with US troops. That is the E1-E5/6 ranks. Not officers or Pentagon officials, intelligence communities within the branches. And it is true to an extent. It is more like Russia is taking advantage of a sentiment that was already there and is getting a boost by our own President against what the Pentagon is putting out that plays down their threat level to us.LOL............you have missed the point of the entire thread.
Go back to the OP's point and then we can talk.
Yes shame on liberals for not seeing the future. Putin's invasion of Ukraine, sending hit squads to Democratic nations and interfering in our elections to help Trump win all came after Obama's comment about Romney.
I've read the thread. The OP states that Russia is building up sympathy, essentially downplaying it's own threat level with US troops. That is the E1-E5/6 ranks. Not officers or Pentagon officials, intelligence communities within the branches. And it is true to an extent. It is more like Russia is taking advantage of a sentiment that was already there and is getting a boost by our own President against what the Pentagon is putting out that plays down their threat level to us.
It wouldn't be that easy for them to take advantage of sympathies of troops if our own President didnt contradict what our intelligence communities are putting out about Russia.
You keep bringing up the Pentagon. The article was not about the Pentagon. It was about sympathies of the troops. The E1-E6 ranks are very different than the Pentagon officers.
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Go find me some soldiers that have any sympathy for Russia.
Go fin me a submariner that has sympathy for the "Crazy Ivan's" they have to dodge out there.
Ain't happening.
You still on the foreign power train? Mueller and his report were disgraced. There was no Russian election influence Hillary lost because she was a terrible candidate. And she may have another chance I hope.
Of course. I've watched only Fox news, and I now realize that the Dutch and Australian intelligence services, working with the US intelligence services, 50 Republicans in the FBI, a dozen Democrats in the Justice Department,
and James Comey, George Soros, Hillary Clinton, and the Illuminati forced the Trump campaign to have more than 100 contacts with Russian intelligence. Ees obvious as nose on face!
I can find plenty. I've talked to plenty. The article talked about plenty. The level of threat that the average enlisted Sailor or Soldier or Marine views Russia is lower for a good portion of the services (still not half, but more than even the civilian side, according to the stats of the article) than it should be placed. That is mainly because of psychology. If something is put on the back burner as a threat to people, as Russia has been put, then they are going to question them being a threat at all.Go find me some soldiers that have any sympathy for Russia.
Go fin me a submariner that has sympathy for the "Crazy Ivan's" they have to dodge out there.
Ain't happening.
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