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It absolutely is. To force someone to engage in an association in which he would not choose to engage is a violation of his freedom of association.
The Constitution is the highest law, and there is nothing in it that supports the idea that government can compel you to waive one right as a condition of being allowed to exercise another.
It is the law of the land. We don't have monarchy and dictators. We have the law. If you don't like it, give a big campaign donationa and have the law changed, as Rand Paul wants to do.
I don't think it's unreasonable panic or fear for people to take action to protect individual freedoms when there have been lawsuits and people punished for not providing services that went against their beliefs. In cases like the bakery that didn't want to bake a cake for a homosexual wedding (and not because they were homosexuals) should be considered a violation of the baker's personal freedoms and rights. Don't want the state pushing the morals of the public at large upon everyone by denying homosexuals marriage certificates? It should go both ways in that homosexuals or any other group can't demand forced servitude from individuals or force people to do things to cater to them that goes against the individuals beliefs. I don't think it's it's absurd to take measures to protect individual rights when such rights have been attacked in other areas.
The Constitution is the highest law, and there is nothing in it that supports the idea that government can compel you to waive one right as a condition of being allowed to exercise another.
I guess you missed the part that said "association" does not mean serving the public.
No, I didn't miss it. I dismissed it as obviously untrue, and unworthy of a response.
I think logic takes care of that. If rights didn't have limits then there would be no rights. They'd cancel each other out.
Take the freedom of speech and personal property rights. If freedom of speech were absolute, then you'd be free to say anything you want including false things that damage someone else's property. If property rights were absolute then even true statements that damaged your property would be banned. Everything is a check and a balance.
1.)There is nothing in the Constitution that supports any “right” to have someone be forced to do business with you who does not want to do business with you. Such a “right” would indeed be in direct conflict with freedom of association, which is strongly implied in the First Amendment, and in the cases under dispute, it is in conflict with freedom of religion, which is explicitly affirmed in the First Amendment.
2.) I find no rational basis for arguing that phony made-up “rights” can ever legitimately trump genuine Constitutionally-affirmed rights.
There is nothing in the Constitution that supports any “right” to have someone be forced to do business with you who does not want to do business with you. Such a “right” would indeed be in direct conflict with freedom of association, which is strongly implied in the First Amendment, and in the cases under dispute, it is in conflict with freedom of religion, which is explicitly affirmed in the First Amendment.
I find no rational basis for arguing that phony made-up “rights” can ever legitimately trump genuine Constitutionally-affirmed rights.
I agree, and yet here you are implying that there is some constitutionally affirmed "right" to do business with the public. There isn't.
If you're so homophobic that you don't want to risk being forced to do business with gays, it's no problem: you are free to choose not to do business with anyone.
Every man needs to be able to make a living. Although not explicitly stated in the COnstitution, I think it stands to reason that the ability to make a living through honest means is one of the unenumerated rights mentioned in the Ninth Amendment. Certainly, a much stronger case can be made for this right than for a “right” to have someone be forced to do business with you who does not want to do business with you.
And there is certainly nothing in the Constitution that suggests nor allows any authority on the part of government to compel any citizen to give up his First Amendment rights to freedom of association and freedom of religion, as a condition of being allowed to make an honest living.
Every man needs to be able to make a living. Although not explicitly stated in the COnstitution, I think it stands to reason that the ability to make a living through honest means is one of the unenumerated rights mentioned in the Ninth Amendment. Certainly, a much stronger case can be made for this right than for a “right” to have someone be forced to do business with you who does not want to do business with you.
1.)Every man needs to be able to make a living. Although not explicitly stated in the COnstitution, I think it stands to reason that the ability to make a living through honest means is one of the unenumerated rights mentioned in the Ninth Amendment. Certainly, a much stronger case can be made for this right than for a “right” to have someone be forced to do business with you who does not want to do business with you.
2.) And there is certainly nothing in the Constitution that suggests nor allows any authority on the part of government to compel any citizen to give up his First Amendment rights to freedom of association and freedom of religion, as a condition of being allowed to make an honest living.
It makes him unhappy. That's all he needs.
yep thats what he seems to base his views of right and wrong on. . . . feelings and nothing else matters. Not laws, not the constitution, not rights just his feelings/opinions.
It absolutely is. To force someone to engage in an association in which he would not choose to engage is a violation of his freedom of association.
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