• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Paychecks Lag as Profits Soar, and Prices Erode Wage Gains

MTAtech

DP Veteran
Joined
Dec 4, 2013
Messages
39,488
Reaction score
40,723
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Liberal
Paychecks Lag as Profits Soar, and Prices Erode Wage Gains Wait. But some will tell you that the GOP tax-cut put more money in worker's pockets.

What we have here is what happens when we elect a plutocrat masquerading as a populist -- he tells you he'll pass policies that help workers, then, when elected, passes policies that help millionaires and billionaires.
His tariffs are hurting Americans and will hurt more in the coming months and years.
His attack on the ACA is driving prices up. Even Tom Price, Trump's former top health official said the Republican tax law would raise the cost of health insurance for some Americans because it repealed a core provision of the Affordable Care Act.
 

The failure of the US Economy has been more than 50 years in the making.

Some people pretend really hard that this is not so.
 
Wages are a lagging indicator. :shrug:
 

Damn! A lagging indicator is lagging! LOL.

Bezos has enough money. A non paywall article about Obamacare prices rising:
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/01/tom...ling-individual-mandate-will-raise-costs.html

Repealing the requirement that people buy insurance was repealed, so yes, forcing your kids to pay into your pool is a good idea, but not a smart one.
 
Last edited:
The failure of the US Economy has been more than 50 years in the making.

Some people pretend really hard that this is not so.

More like 40 years ago. In the prior period, the middle class was growing due to policies that encourages worker organizing, a high marginal tax-rate and a high minimum wage.

Since then, income inequality has risen dramatically. Most people assume that this rise in inequality was the result of impersonal forces, like technological change and globalization. But the great reduction of inequality that created middle-class America between 1935 and 1945 was driven by political change; politics has also played an important role in rising inequality since the 1980s. It’s important to know that no other advanced economy has seen a comparable surge in inequality – even the rising inequality of Thatcherite Britain was a faint echo of trends here.

Because of movement conservative political dominance, taxes on the rich have fallen, and the holes in the safety net have gotten bigger, even as inequality has soared. And the rise of movement conservatism is also at the heart of the bitter partisanship that characterizes politics today.
 
As I look around the real world where I live......I see people with too much money.

Huge SUVs are everywhere, fancy cell phones are everywhere, big boats and campers are flooding the highways for summer, restaurants and bars are full, people are traveling in airplanes on fine vacations and even the so-called Poverty cases have a car and a television and a stereo and a lot of the poverty cases have giant screen TVs and.....sadly.....are obese.

What I see is an over abundance of prosperity and people who don't appreciate it.

The poor people have a lot and are angry because they feel they should have even more......

They should read some history and discover what REAL poverty really IS.
 
Yeah, the poor are just lucky duckies. 99.6% of poor have refrigerators!


Today's enlightened column:
Benefits, Work, and Poverty
 
Last edited:
The "poor" will get no sympathy while their corpulent bodies are slouched on the couch watching a giant-screen TV and munching French fries and Big Mac's.
 
"But it's NOT THEIR FAULT," the Liberal whines......

OK......anyway, it sure as hell ain't MY fault.

I didn't have anything to do with their genes.
 
The "poor" will get no sympathy while their corpulent bodies are slouched on the couch watching a giant-screen TV and munching French fries and Big Mac's.
Your post represents the false narrative that YOU sitting in front of the Fox News propaganda channel all day. Generally, those receiving gov't help are seniors, disabled, and the working poor -- who just happen to work but earn very little.

The idea of the Welfare Queen driving a Cadillac is a lie.
 

Bull****.

I'm a senior and I was working class all my life and due to smart investments hard work (sometimes at three jobs at once) and military service I have more money than I know what to do with......and BTW.......I watch CNN (and laugh at the fake news).
 

Prices aren't being driven up; wages aren't falling.

You claim to understand economics and you consider yourself an intelligent individual, yet you fail for misleading statistic so easily. How am I expected to take you seriously?
 
Ah, so because you worked and happen to luck into good investments, that means that every working class person can do the same? I think you should consider yourself lucky and be a bit more sympathetic to those less fortunate to you.

There are many problems with that line of reasoning. The first is that working class people today -- not during the 1970s when you were working -- don't have the ability to invest because they have no money after normal expenses. In fact, only 39% of Americans have enough savings to cover a $1,000 emergency.

Second, you said you had "military service." That means that you get medical insurance and may get a military pension.
 

Yes, I have both.......basically free Tri-Care insurance and Express Scripts meds and a military retirement, a civilian retirement and Social Security plus good income from (smart, not "lucky") investments.

My fairly wealthy status is available to ANYBODY with brains and ambition......I was born into poverty--and I AM sympathetic to the poor and disabled......just NOT the lazy whining poor who manage to have giant screen TVs and fancy smart phones and cars and eat Big Mac's at every meal and feel entitled to have what I have even though they refuse to work like I did.
Screw them.

SCREW THEM!
 
Last edited:
Prices aren't being driven up; wages aren't falling.

You claim to understand economics and you consider yourself an intelligent individual, yet you fail for misleading statistic so easily. How am I expected to take you seriously?
You can deny reality, but that doesn't make your alternate reality so.

Prices:

Wages:
For the biggest group of American workers, wages aren’t just flat. They’re falling.
 
For the second year in a row, Trump is the biggest factor driving premium increases. On purpose!

Why charge low wage young earners extra to take care of old workers who are below SS age? I'll tell you why you like it: it's one more brick in the democrat's Socialist wall.
 
Why charge low wage young earners extra to take care of old workers who are below SS age? I'll tell you why you like it: it's one more brick in the democrat's Socialist wall.

You may want to look into how the ACA works, particularly with respect to how the premiums for low-wage earners are determined.
 
50 years of gutting unions, giving corporations more power, and allowing corporations to gain to buy out their competitors.

The mismanagement is a lot worse than that.

But hey Trump will be loaded up with as much of the blame as the so-called journalists and other FAILED INTELLIGENTSIA! can manage, there is a job to get done and they threw honesty overboard long long ago.
 
The "poor" will get no sympathy while their corpulent bodies are slouched on the couch watching a giant-screen TV and munching French fries and Big Mac's.

Trump is a fat, obese slob, that eats Big Macs like there is no tomorrow; I guess Trump is poor ..........
 
You may want to look into how the ACA works, particularly with respect to how the premiums for low-wage earners are determined.

that is too much 'work' for the typical conservative ............... jus' sayin' ...........
 
inflation is currently at it's highest rate of growth since 2012 ............... thanks Trump ............
 

Yes, but it's a necessary lie. If you can't paint the poor as lazy, and morally deficient, and living high on the taxpayers' dime it makes it hard to justify screwing them over.
 
Few things display rampant liberal economic illiteracy such as complaining about companies making profits... Profits are a good thing, expanding equity and generating wealth are good things.
 
Cookies are required to use this site. You must accept them to continue using the site. Learn more…