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However, the idea that she's going to do "better than ever" because she said the n-word is hard to swallow. She does have a loyal fan base, but I doubt that her vocabulary has added to it. The people who are buying her book are people who were going to buy the book anyway. They pre-ordered her book to show support, but they were going to buy it anyway. No one is buying the book simply because she said the n-word. IOW, it doesn't represent any increase in income.
Her being dropped from FN is a big blow. It was a platform that kept her in the public eye, and gave her the opportunity to promote her products. Though she keep many, or even most of her endorsements, it's going to be harder for her to get additional endorsements going into the future.
It does make "logical" sense when you realize that a white person using the term invokes centuries of oppression in a way that a black person using the term does not.
As has been observed in another thread, Paula Deen's words are more exciting and valuable to discuss than a Supreme Court Justice being called an "Uncle Thomas." This says something too.
See I was under the impression the book was already published. Now Random House is "monitoring the situation closely," as is QVC. It's possible (not bloody likely) but possible that it will not get published, and she'll have to find a new publisher.
I have no idea on what you base your opinion of my being "pc". You don't show it, you assume it.The only people I feel superior to are the ones, regardless of their race, who do not think for themselves_
If you ever break free of the PC that shapes your views and judgement, I might even consider you an equal_
It's not a benign context if used by other races, by definition - unless used as a criticism of its usage. Dropping the N-bomb if you're black doesn't indicate that you think black people are inferior, but if you're white and you drop it, there's a good chance that you look down on blacks.
It's not "racism" (the word you're looking for is discrimination, BTW), since every other race can use their own pertinent slurs.
Doesn't context matter?
No, the book has been published and the first link I posted says her publisher is still with her. Her newest book just went from the 1500s to number one on the best seller list.
You didnt start a thread so how do you know?
Of course context matters. But are you saying only black people can use it is a benign context?
You apparently missed the post by another member, which I was simply responding to, that did indeed focus on "black racism" to which I presented an opinion__Is that not okay?!I have no idea on what you base your opinion of my being "pc". You don't show it, you assume it.
In this thread you believe that the focus should not be on Deen, but on Black racism, that somehow the issue is "racial injustice" where if Deen uses a racial epithet, the problem is societies over-reaction (we are being politically correct). There is no problem with Deen....the problem is us. On the other (sleight of ) hand, according to you, the thing we need to focus on is how we allow Black racism, that the problem is that we allow it, we are not intolerant of it.
You are talking out of both sides of your mouth, if we criticize Deen, if we are intolerant of her speech (what you supposedly want when you say on the one hand that we should be intolerant of ALL racism), we are being "PC", that we are faking it, that our criticism is not real. The way you deal with the example at hand is to chastise us for criticizing Deen's racism while complaining that we are not at the same time being critical of some generalized "Black racism".
At best it is inconsistent thought, at worst it is a racist double standard hiding behind a smiley face.
Paula Deen Fired: Food Network Cancels Show After Racism Scandal
Gwyneth Paltrow used the word niggas'. Robert Byrd was a KKK member and used the word 'nigger'. Paula Deen used he word 'nigger' in her past and she got fired. Gwyneth is doing just fine and Robert Byrd was fondly remembered by Bill Clinton.
Paula Deen is pretty much everything I don't like, so I'm not defending her. But her career will go on and this is only a blip. TBH I'm more concerned about the sexual harassment complaints. There is absolutely no talk that she was discriminatory in hiring or employment, only that she and her brother once told some stereotypical racist jokes.
Maybe it had something to do with Byrd not having a cooking show, but instead voting in a manner that actually helped working people and minorities?
Sure, just like WHITE RACISM is empowered by BLACK GUILT.
If BLACKS would just let their GUILT go, then WHITE RACISM would disappear.
If JEWS would let go of their GUILT, then NAZISM would disappear......MAGIC!
You seem to have either missed or ignored the gist of the dilemma we were discussing Gimme_
Which is, racial harmony will only be realized when society becomes intolerant of all racists, regardless of color_
You don't appear to have reached that level of intolerance quite yet but don't feel bad, you're certainly not alone_
Heaven forbid we reach a point of total INTOLERANCE towards racists, where in the world would those young girls with ideas of their inherent superiority hide?
The only people I feel superior to are the ones, regardless of their race, who do not think for themselves_
If you ever break free of the PC that shapes your views and judgement, I might even consider you an equal_
I have no idea on what you base your opinion of my being "pc". You don't show it, you assume it.*
In this thread you believe that the focus should not be on Deen, but on Black racism, that somehow the issue is "racial injustice" where if Deen uses a racial epithet, the problem is societies over-reaction (we are being politically correct). There is no problem with Deen....the problem is us. On the other (sleight of ) hand, according to you, the thing we need to focus on is how we allow Black racism, that the problem is that we allow it, we are not intolerant of it.*
You are talking out of both sides of your mouth, if we criticize Deen, if we are intolerant of her speech (what you supposedly want when you say on the one hand that we should be intolerant of ALL racism), we are being "PC", that we are faking it, that our criticism is not real. The way you deal with the example at hand is to chastise us for criticizing Deen's racism while complaining that we are not at the same time being critical of some generalized "Black racism".
At best it is inconsistent thought, at worst it is a racist double standard hiding behind a smiley face.
I am entirely responding to the content of your "opinion", how it is full of contradiction and doulble talk. No where am I "defending" minorities, I am attacking your position that the issue is not Deen but our reaction to Deen and racism by blacks. You fail to address your double standard that we should be intolerant of ALL racism while you complain that we are "pc" when we are intolerant of her racist comments.You apparently missed the post by another member, which I was simply responding to, that did indeed focus on "black racism" to which I presented an opinion__Is that not okay?! But rather than taking the time to notice this obvious detail, you immediately saw red and jumped to the conclusion that, "hey this must be racism!" and went into attack mode to show everyone just what a wonderful champion of the poor downtrodden minorities you are_Which I consider to be so very PC that it's sickening__Seriously, get a life dude!
Persona is what sells on TV. Now her persona is the kind of person who tells racist jokes. Not a big deal in the great scheme of things, but a big deal if you want a popular TV show.
Yeah, we are pretty much talking about where they court of public opinion is king. Hell, it doesn't even matter if she never even said any of it, or did anything that could even possibly be construed as morally wrong. What matters is that public opinion has simply shifted against her, for whatever reason.
it's kind of the nature of celebrity, especially in the twitter age
Maybe it had more to do with him being a democrat.
True, but if you live by celebrity you die by it.
Yeah, minorities and working people recognize that Democratic policies are good for their community and conservative policies aren't, so I expect they are more forgiving toward Democrats. Deal with it.
Democrats have given us the largest deficit in history...how is that good for minorities? Deal with that. Exactly which conservative policies are not good for the 'community'?
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