Paris attacks

[Medusa]

share your rational ideas please

 

[Arkantos]

So now France will join the USA in ISIS bombing...

So what when (if) ISIS is defeated? The USA and Saudi Arabia have invested too much in the proxy war, even before ISIS was relevant in Syria, to now simply let Assad regain full control. One of the NATO or Russia will have to swallow their pride and go home. Either that or something more severe could sparkle...

 

[Infinite Chaos]

share your rational ideas please

What are your first?

So now France will join the USA in ISIS bombing...

I thought France already was? Doesn't do much for the idea the attacks are in retaliation for French involvement in the ME then.

 

[Arkantos]

What are your first?



I thought France already was? Doesn't do much for the idea the attacks are in retaliation for French involvement in the ME then.

My bad. They already are, yes. Hopefully more heavy and stern attacks will follow.

 

[PeteEU]

So now France will join the USA in ISIS bombing...

France started bombing ISIS before the US..

 

[joG]

France started bombing ISIS before the US..

Not that I have any skin in this, but are you sure?

 

[PeteEU]

Not that I have any skin in this, but are you sure?

Nope I was wrong. They started in September of this year. Was thinking of Libya I think, where France was one of the first to bomb.

 

[Northern Light]

The semantics don't matter. France has been "intervening" alongside the U.S. for decades. Hollande's declaration of war (basically) is redundant, and just another bait and switch.

And as usual, the media makes no attempt to elucidate the public on the true timeline of Syria and Libya... just the usual superficial non-sense about terrorists and how France is preparing for another conflict.

It's so sad to see otherwise advanced nations with civilized institutional publics get sucked into mindless wars with very little explanation, time and time again. People NEVER learn.

 

[dani67]

1:droping nuclear weapon in syria or
2:all european escape to usa OR
3:kill all vahabi sunni

 

[Medusa]

What are your first?



I thought France already was? Doesn't do much for the idea the attacks are in retaliation for French involvement in the ME then.

you all know what I think.I started it because the other thread was closed

 

[Medusa]

no french has the right to complain about these immigrants refugees especially if they are the citizens of their ex colonies.the french govt killed millions of Algerians.France exploited african countries ,france intervened in syrian chaos and supported radicals.now all of them are 'je suis charlie je suis paris'.I am not charlie because they usually ignore if any other people from other nationss are bombed and they usually accuse other governments to organize these attacks.

 

[joG]

What are your first?



I thought France already was? Doesn't do much for the idea the attacks are in retaliation for French involvement in the ME then.

What would be new would be an intervention with boots on the ground. The could do it alone, but shouldn't. Also, they have almost the same qualms as the US does in making peace after removing criminal regimes.

 

[Infinite Chaos]

you all know what I think.I started it because the other thread was closed

No, I didn't read your thoughts. Unless they are below?

no french has the right to complain about these immigrants refugees especially if they are the citizens of their ex colonies.the french govt killed millions of Algerians.France exploited african countries ,france intervened in syrian chaos and supported radicals.now all of them are 'je suis charlie je suis paris'.I am not charlie because they usually ignore if any other people from other nationss are bombed and they usually accuse other governments to organize these attacks.

By this logic you shouldn't complain if citizens colonised by the ottoman Turks become refugees and or become terrorists against the Turkish regime.

What would be new would be an intervention with boots on the ground. The could do it alone, but shouldn't. Also, they have almost the same qualms as the US does in making peace after removing criminal regimes.

France has been very happy to send troops in to change regime in former colonies.

 

[Medusa]

No, I didn't read your thoughts. Unless they are below?



By this logic you shouldn't complain if citizens colonised by the ottoman Turks become refugees and or become terrorists against the Turkish regime.



France has been very happy to send troops in to change regime in former colonies.

we are happy to host refugees unlike hypocrite europeans.dont you know this fact ?we dont treat them like animals like europeans are doing now. and your comparison fails because we never became as much brutal as the european imperialism.if so teh half of the world wouldnt be speaking your language now you know

are you sure about your last claim ? what about algerians ? they invaded and killed and raped them! whether you like or not..but they try to teach us human rights.france is a real supporter of pkk too.I am never charlie because I am not two faced

 

[joG]

No, I didn't read your thoughts. Unless they are below?



By this logic you shouldn't complain if citizens colonised by the ottoman Turks become refugees and or become terrorists against the Turkish regime.

France has been very happy to send troops in to change regime in former colonies.

Oh. In the past that was quite frequent and with varying success. But they have been rather more reticent in recent times. Libya demonstrates the pro and con of not putting boots in the country as does Syria.

 

[joG]

we are happy to host refugees unlike hypocrite europeans.dont you know this fact ?we dont treat them like animals like europeans are doing now. and your comparison fails because we never became as much brutal as the european imperialism.if so teh half of the world wouldnt be speaking your language now you know

are you sure about your last claim ? what about algerians ? they invaded and killed and raped them! whether you like or not..but they try to teach us human rights.france is a real supporter of pkk too.I am never charlie because I am not two faced

I like the Kurds.

 

[Medusa]

I like the Kurds.

you cant like them as much as me.they are not your students,your neighbours,your friends,your teachers. so you can never like them like I DO.....

and please be ' I am turk or kurd' if you really like.dont take it personal .you are all smart enough to see whatt I am pointing out

france supports pkk but none of them became je suis kurd.do you understnd me?

NOTE KK is more like an armenian org.rather than kurd.dont associate pkk with every kurd.

 

[countryboy]

no french has the right to complain about these immigrants refugees especially if they are the citizens of their ex colonies.the french govt killed millions of Algerians.France exploited african countries ,france intervened in syrian chaos and supported radicals.now all of them are 'je suis charlie je suis paris'.I am not charlie because they usually ignore if any other people from other nationss are bombed and they usually accuse other governments to organize these attacks.

Really? Innocent victims of terrorism have no right to complain about the wanton slaughter of innocents? I thought you said you wanted "rational thoughts".

 

[Medusa]

Really? Innocent victims of terrorism have no right to complain about the wanton slaughter of innocents? I thought you said you wanted "rational thoughts".

they should complain to their own government,thats what I mean.is it really hard to undrrstand?

150 people were killed here last month but pkk supporter france was never' je suis kurd turk'.hypocrisy

 

[countryboy]

they should complain to their own government,thats what I mean.is it really hard to undrrstand?

150 people were killed here last month but pkk supporter france was never' je suis kurd turk'.hypocrisy

You are full of it, and your thread is a joke.

 

[Atiya]

Not that I have any skin in this, but are you sure?

I have read that ISIS claims Paris attacks as REVENGE for Syria airstrikes and insulting Islam's prophet.

"ISIS issued a statement this morning claiming responsibility for the barbaric act, saying it was in response to airstrikes against militants in Syria and Iraq and insults to Islam's prophet."
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I am still trying to find where France was bombing in Syria before the US. One is left thinking the France attacks is a carryover because of the perceived "insults to Islam's Prophet" by Muslims.
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Paris attacks: ISIS says killings were in response to airstrikes and insults to prophet | World | News | Daily Express

 

[joG]

I have read that ISIS claims Paris attacks as REVENGE for Syria airstrikes and insulting Islam's prophet.

"ISIS issued a statement this morning claiming responsibility for the barbaric act, saying it was in response to airstrikes against militants in Syria and Iraq and insults to Islam's prophet."
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I am still trying to find where France was bombing in Syria before the US. One is left thinking the France attacks is a carryover because of the perceived "insults to Islam's Prophet" by Muslims.
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Paris attacks: ISIS says killings were in response to airstrikes and insults to prophet | World | News | Daily Express

That they might believe France an insult to Islam is true in a way. Modernity in the European style especially is rather anti religious in almost every aspect.

 

[Atiya]

That they might believe France an insult to Islam is true in a way. Modernity in the European style especially is rather anti-religious in almost every aspect.

My fellow poster, I agree with you absolutely. After all, the Muslim religion appears to many in the West as lagging behind the rest of modern civilization. In our Western culture, we believe in free speech but in the Muslim tradition this "freedom" does not extend to their prophet.

 

[Medusa]

You are full of it, and your thread is a joke.

and your post is ignorant

 

[Medusa]

My fellow poster, I agree with you absolutely. After all, the Muslim religion appears to many in the West as lagging behind the rest of modern civilization. In our Western culture, we believe in free speech but in the Muslim tradition this "freedom" does not extend to their prophet.

you become one of them but they deny this fact ,atiye.many of them dont like middle easterners.