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With the recent news of Minnesota Vikings running back Adrian Peterson being charged with child abuse in possibly two separate cases, I thought it would be a good time to pose the question of where to draw the line in punishing a child. It was always acceptable for me to get a spanking or slap when I was out of line as a kid, and that wasn't overly long ago. Now all of a sudden, Mr. Peterson is in hot water as a result. Granted, I was never spanked with a stick, but there were always some interesting objects involved. I just wanted to know if you believe it is allowable for an adult to use force that does not cause permanent damage in order to teach/ discipline their children. Please explain you answer.
Only with an open hand.
If you need a weapon, you are a loser and have no control over your children.
I myself was never spanked or slapped as my parents were believers in Summerhill type concepts of education. But I am not at all sure that is the only way to go.
But there is also a real legal question there. Children are citizens and do have rights. Is it acceptable that the state forbid slapping your neighbor or employee but allow doing so to dependents?
Is it acceptable to refuse all further contact with (and support of) your employee or neighbor? How about your dependents?
With special responsibilities come special rights (and vice versa).
Is there a reason that open hand is fine but some kind of instrument isn't? Or did you draw that line arbitrarily?
Don't be coy, you know what I mean. You use a belt, switch, branch or whatever beyond the open hand. You should go to jail.
Only with an open hand.
If you need a weapon, you are a loser and have no control over your children.
The day I even consider beating my children to the point that they bleed or the day I even considering hitting my sons in their genitals is the day someone should report me to the authorities.
That's the difference I think between me & Adrian.
I honestly have no idea who that is.With the recent news of Minnesota Vikings running back Adrian Peterson ....
Exactly. Spanking's fine, as is the occasional slap, if they deserve it.
If you're either until the child bleeds, however, something is seriously wrong.
That is like the logic behind women slapping men. The man deserved it, so it's fine. :/ Assault is assault regardless if someone apparently deserved it. Not sure how you can deserve to be assaulted though. Seems a bit twisted to me.
So assaulting someone is ok if they are dependent on you? I'm sensing a logic blackhole. :/
Don't be coy, you know what I mean. You use a belt, switch, branch or whatever beyond the open hand. You should go to jail.
It is corrective behavioral training.
Besides which, it is actually quite common in nature. Mammalian species commonly "cuff" their offspring when they act up.
It is what it is. :shrug:
I was (open handedly) spanked as a child, I 'turned out fine' and don't blame my parents in the slightest (it's what they thought was best), I think that discipline by force is an outdated practice. It promotes fear rather than respect and we now know there are other effective means of raising a child.
I don't believe assault corrects behavior in the way you think it does.
I don't believe assault corrects behavior in the way you think it does.
I feared and respected my father. Yet, he never laid a hand on me. Ever.Sadly, fear is a timeless tactic to get other people to obey your command. Why earn their respect, when you can just beat their ass and make them scared? Hell, most people think they are getting respect when they spank a kid, but sorry, that is not true.
An interesting thing about this discussion is that politics and parenting style have a strong correlation.
An open handed pop on the butt to get ones attention is one thing, but the conversation is stemming form Adrian Peterson beating the crap out of his kid with a switch.I would say the same for a parent who uses an "open hand".
In my experience, adults who use physical force against children usually do so for one of two reasons: 1. They are ill equipped to be a parent and have not taken the time to learn proper discipline methods or 2. They become extremely frustrated and act out of rage.
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