[h=2]"We have to remain strong," says former US secretary of defense.
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“It is the Supreme Leader [Ali Khamenei] who is key, and he is not likely to give up [uranium] enrichment,” Panetta warned. “We have to remain strong. We have to remain consistent.”
The fact remains that we live in a very dangerous world,”...
Panetta: US may have to use military force against Iran | JPost | Israel News
This just in: people who are part of the military industrial complex like war. Up next sun rises in the east, but many are surprised to find that it sets in the west.
Clinton sent Sec. of Def. Cohen all over the place warning America and the world about Saddam's WMD threat...
... Why do I get the feeling these words are not aimed at the world, or Americans, but Obama?
(Can't wait to see the responses from the likes of ecofarm)
"We have to remain strong"?????????
"We live in a dangerous world"???????
"We have to remain consistent"???????
Doesn't sound like he believes this administration is "strong", or "consistent".
Based on Obama's words and actions... or lack thereof, and Obama's Melting Red Line, his Lead from Behind, his Take it from Behind, his abandoning Americans in Benghazi... I can understand Panetta's fears.
I made no reference to party. Both political parties like profiting from war. Unlike your immature blind partisan hatred.I wouldn't exactly call retired Sec. of Def. Panetta part of the IMC. Look at the party he's part of. The Treasonous Left. Sending troops to war and then stabbing them in the back for political expediency. Now, Panetta wasn't in government then, but it's his party.
He's a Demokrat and it's just a little odd he would come out with such warnings... as noted in the OP... I think it's to send a shot towards The Incompetent One.
ROTFLOL...I made no reference to party. Both political parties like profiting from war. Unlike your immature blind partisan hatred.
Oh and about stabbing the troops in the back...
Republicans pushed for the war in Iraq but then refused to give them proper equipment. So you can just put the lid on that.
Clinton sent Sec. of Def. Cohen all over the place warning America and the world about Saddam's WMD threat...
..(Can't wait to see the responses from the likes of ecofarm). Why do I get the feeling these words are not aimed at the world, or Americans, but Obama?
"We have to remain strong"?????????
"We live in a dangerous world"???????
"We have to remain consistent"???????
Doesn't sound like he believes this administration is "strong", or "consistent".
Based on Obama's words and actions... or lack thereof, and Obama's Melting Red Line, his Lead from Behind, his Take it from Behind, his abandoning Americans in Benghazi... I can understand Panetta's fears.
Well...Because that's what you want to believe.
President Obama has issued the same warnings.
This is nothing new except for the conspiracy theorists and the Anti-Obama far right.
Well...
That being said, why do you suppose Panetta took the opportunity to say these things now then? Think it is because the President seems sufficiently strong and consistent in this dangerous world... or not so much?
Would that also mean in your mind that Panetta has switched sides, is now a part of the conspiracy theorists and the Anti-Obama far right... or maybe just a very concerned ex-S of D ?
Obama's actions are contrary to Panetta's words.Because that's what you want to believe.
President Obama has issued the same warnings.
This is nothing new except for the conspiracy theorists and the Anti-Obama far right.
Should probably give your own articles a read for accuracy's sake.Doesn't sound like he believes this administration is "strong", or "consistent".
Based on Obama's words and actions... or lack thereof
“Engagement is not appeasement, nor is it containment,” he said. “We know what those are, we know where they lead, and we will not pursue them. And President Obama has repeatedly made clear that words are not enough. Action must match words.”
So, you are saying that Panetta didn't say these things?I see this as total BS which some people on the far right are happy to try to spread.
You, basically, said nothing. You didn't answer the question... you are avoiding it...why?I said what I said, not what you want to spin that I said.
You, basically, said nothing. You didn't answer the question... you are avoiding it...why?
Clinton sent Sec. of Def. Cohen all over the place warning America and the world about Saddam's WMD threat...
... Why do I get the feeling these words are not aimed at the world, or Americans, but Obama?
(Can't wait to see the responses from the likes of ecofarm)
"We have to remain strong"?????????
"We live in a dangerous world"???????
"We have to remain consistent"???????
Doesn't sound like he believes this administration is "strong", or "consistent".
Based on Obama's words and actions... or lack thereof, and Obama's Melting Red Line, his Lead from Behind, his Take it from Behind, his abandoning Americans in Benghazi... I can understand Panetta's fears.
Those you quoted were Hagel's, not Panetta's, words... and just what do those words mean to you... what exactly does Hagel, for instance, mean here by engagement? Appeasement we know and we know it does not work...containment, on the other-hand, sometimes we know from history, in conjunction with a bit of economic and political backbone, perhaps a few clashes here and there, can and has worked.Should probably give your own articles a read for accuracy's sake.
Why thank you for those two rather myopic views... and for, I guess, just for adding your two cents.[/COLOR][/B]
I have said all that I'm going to say on this topic.
Have a nice day as we watch the GOP fade away.
Israel does that... then what? Do we, under an Obama leadership, aid Israel? Seems I remember Biden telling the "community" we possibly would not come to our allies side in the future... searching right now trying to find that instance when he said that and what exactly he said, if I remember it was a guarded phrase, hard to tell what he meant...Iran's more worried about Israel face stomping them. I'm making sure my cars never dip below half tank right now.
While I might, with much revision, agree to some of what you have to say... what is your solution? We do, indeed, live in a dangerous world, the United States is in the position we are in... what then to do?Apparently the best way to remain strong is to continue to feck with countries far away, choose their leaders for them, impose "democracy" on them, slaughter their innocents, destroy their infrastructures, exploit their national resources, send in select corporations to become local "partners", kill many of their adult males and drone the general population into submission. It's what America does to the rest of the world. Do all of this by sending the American People to do this. Do not send your own kith and ken. In Washington your job is to make everyone suffer but everyone in Washington. In Washington your job is to prosper. Walk proud, neocons, walk proud.
I made no reference to party. Both political parties like profiting from war. Unlike your immature blind partisan hatred.
Oh and about stabbing the troops in the back...
Republicans pushed for the war in Iraq but then refused to give them proper equipment. So you can just put the lid on that.
While I might, with much revision, agree to some of what you have to say... what is your solution? We do, indeed, live in a dangerous world, the United States is in the position we are in... what then to do?
Casting aspersions are easy, they only show mess on the other guy... what is the Risky Thicket independent view of how we should shoulder, or run away, or any dot on the spectrum between the two, from where we are right now in world history?
America is exceptional.Hagel, Pannetta, Obama, Clinton, all the same mindset, all neocons. All "American exceptionalists"
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