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It's not rediculous, since Obama doesn't have the authority to sign such an executive order.
because those things would be stupid to implement and there is no coherent reason to so modify such work rules ... unlike the circumstance in which Obama has signed an executive order expanding overtime to cover salaried employees
I didn't see in the OP if this order would be for hourly wage earners or salaried wage earners.
If it is for salaried wage earners, this would essentially turn them into hourly wage earners.
How can the federal government void employment contracts between employees and employers?
Carney "Offended" That Ed Henry Would Ask If WH's Focus On Women Is Political | Video | RealClearPoliticsED HENRY, FOX NEWS: Jay, this focus today, women and the economy, minimum wage, overtime pay increases, all important policy areas as was discussed at the top, but will you also acknowledge these are also issues that test pretty well in an election year and that are a lot better to focus on than, say, the health care numbers?
JAY CARNEY: Are you saying we should have done this in 2012 because our margin with women wasn't big enough?
HENRY: The margins were pretty strong and that might help you again in the midterms.
CARNEY: These are the right things to do for the economy. No, Ed.
HENRY: It has nothing to do with the midterms?
CARNEY: You know what? I think every woman in here ought to be offended by it. I'm offended by it on behalf of my wife and my daughter. It's crazy.
I think that every employer should make their employees work 12 hour days, 7 days a week and just pay them whenever they feel like and whatever they feel like. While at it hire children too.Like I said we don't need more rules on the subject of overtime.
Yet for some crazy reason the economy IS better now than when he started.Those employees should hit the road; take their talents elsewhere.
The fix surely doesn't exist in the president excercising dictatorial power. This idiot's heavy handed tactics are why the economy is in the ****ter, not overtime regulations.
Not confusing that at all. The law doesn't require exempt employees to have more flexability and I have never claimed that it did.
But the fact is, that exempt employees typically have more flexability than non-exempt employees.
This is a different argument. If someone is salaried, they are exempt. If someone does not meet they requirements of the law, then they are not salaried (and not exempt from the law), they are hourly and are eligible for OT.
For example, if a person makes $200.00 per week, they can not be exempt, true? If they can not be exempt, they then have to be paid hourly and would be eligible for OT. The employer will have to track their hours to ensure they are not working too much, skipping breaks/lunches, etc... That is clearly not a salaried employee, but is simply an hourly employee.
But it's oh so not. The economy has steadily taking a backward march since the day he took office.Yet for some crazy reason the economy IS better now than when he started.
The Obama economy still is a miserable failure | RedState#1 When Barack Obama entered the White House, 60.6 percent of working age Americans had a job. Today, only 58.7 percent of working age Americans have a job.
#2 Since Obama has been president, seven out of every eight jobs that have been “created” in the U.S. economy have been part-time jobs.
#3 The number of full-time workers in the United States is still nearly 6 million below the old record that was set back in 2007.
#4 It is hard to believe, but an astounding 53 percent of all American workers now make less than $30,000 a year.
#5 40 percent of all workers in the United States actually make less than what a full-time minimum wage worker made back in 1968
#6 When the Obama era began, the average duration of unemployment in this country was 19.8 weeks. Today, it is 36.6 weeks.
#7 During the first four years of Obama, the number of Americans “not in the labor force” soared by an astounding 8,332,000. That far exceeds any previous four year total.
#8 According to the U.S. Census Bureau, the middle class is taking home a smaller share of the overall income pie than has ever been recorded before.
#9 When Obama was elected, the home-ownership rate in the United States was 67.5 percent. Today, it is 65.0 percent. That is the lowest that it has been in 18 years.
#10 When Obama entered the White House, the mortgage delinquency rate was 7.85 percent. Today, it is 9.72 percent.
#11 In 2008, the U.S. trade deficit with China was 268 billion dollars. Last year, it was 315 billion dollars.
#12 When Obama first became president, 12.5 million Americans had manufacturing jobs. Today, only 11.9 million Americans have manufacturing jobs.
#13 Median household income in America has fallen for four consecutive years. Overall, it has declined by over $4000 during that time span.
#14 The poverty rate has shot up to 16.1 percent. That is actually higher than when the War on Poverty began in 1965.
#15 During Obama’s first term, the number of Americans on food stamps increased by an average of about 11,000 per day
#16 When Barack Obama entered the White House, there were about 32 million Americans on food stamps. Today, there are more than 47 million Americans on food stamps.
#17 At this point, more than a million public school students in the United States are homeless. This is the first time that has ever happened in our history. That number has risen by 57 percent since the 2006-2007 school year.
#18 When Barack Obama took office, the average price of a gallon of regular gasoline was $1.85. Today, it is $3.53.
#19 Electricity bills in the United States have risen faster than the overall rate of inflation for five years in a row.
#20 Health insurance costs have risen by 29 percent since Barack Obama became president, and Obamacare is going to make things far worse.
Oh please, you are talking about choosing what to believe and for source you link to something that no one even puts a name to and then blame the price of gas and electricity on the president? I bet you date a French model too.But it's oh so not. The economy has steadily taking a backward march since the day he took office.
The Obama economy still is a miserable failure | RedState
- Obama's Slow Growth Policies Have Stacked The Deck Against American Workers - Forbes
- Obama's Economic Failure | RealClearPolitics
- RealClearMarkets - President Obama's Legacy Of Economic Failure
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- Articles: The Cold Hard Facts of Obama's Economy
- Obama's Economy has Become a Synonym for Failure and Despair - Donald Lambro - Page full
Yea, the economy took a serious dump with the hosing market implosion and the financial collapse, but no, he's not been leading the economy into recovery, in fact, it's a viable position that his economic and regulatory policies have twarted any sort of strong recovery. So, no. Obama's not been good for the economy.
You can chose to chose to believe the administration's spin misters, but you'd not be informed with the truth.
Well, frankly, I think something should be done. Companies too often pay salaries and then expect sixty hours a week with no comp time. Just exactly how fair is that?
Folks, I think we're just going to have to get used to paying more for things. Workers need some help to assure their fair treatment. It's time we all realized that.
I was offered a managerial job ten-plus years ago. The offer letter came to me with a salary promise, description of benefits, and a caveat that I would be expected to work sixty hours a week. So, I'll ask again: Just exactly how fair is that?
Oh please, you are talking about choosing what to believe and for source you link to something that no one even puts a name to and then blame the price of gas and electricity on the president? I bet you date a French model too.
I am not trying to place blame, that seems to be your preference, but corporate profits are up, we have more billionaires, etc. etc.Come on. U6 is still around 13%-15%, labor participation rate across the board is at an all time low. Average household income has slipped nearly 10% in the last decade. Businesses aren't hiring, demand is lagging.
Sure, you can TRY and blame Bush for all this, except that we are now well into the 2nd Obama term, and he's demonstrated his general cluelessness about business and the economy, with his continuing to hoist nonsensical EPA regulation burdens onto the economy.
I think that every employer should make their employees work 12 hour days, 7 days a week and just pay them whenever they feel like and whatever they feel like. While at it hire children too.
It's not rediculous, since Obama doesn't have the authority to sign such an executive order.
so, your point is that previously, employees would be expected to work additional hours for no additional compensation, but when the employer has to now pay for those additional hours, management will stagger the work hours such that no overtime is required. and you believe that is a bad outcome ... that the salaried employees now are able to enjoy those former overtime hours as personal time, instead?
While I think overtime regulations need tweaking to protect the American worker, I sure don't approve of Obama's tactics.
I am not trying to place blame, that seems to be your preference, but corporate profits are up, we have more billionaires, etc. etc.
If you take a salaried position, you take the flexibility it brings: work any amount of time during the week, get paid the same. "Executive" positions are almost exclusively salaried.
Maybe this is a stupid question to ask 195 posts into the thread but what the hell does the EO say? So far all I've seen is that he's signing (just signed) some order but I have no idea what it changes and haven't seen a synopsis on any of the major sites.
Anybody got a link to the changes?
Hasn't been detailed yet, so this is all speculation based on the initial leak.
did you sleep thru civics?
the same way a change in the minimum wage causes employers to have to then pay minimum wage workers a higher base compensation
the businesses benefit from operating in the world's best market. following laws, rules, regulations (and executive orders) is part of the price of doing business in that generous marketplace
here is your post; i have emphasized the portion which is a singular question:Thanks for the personal attack and not answering anything I asked.
now, here was my reply to your question:I didn't see in the OP if this order would be for hourly wage earners or salaried wage earners.
If it is for salaried wage earners, this would essentially turn them into hourly wage earners.
How can the federal government void employment contracts between employees and employers?
now, that you might not have liked my answer does not negate the fact that i did reply to your questionthe same way a change in the minimum wage causes employers to have to then pay minimum wage workers a higher base compensation
Maybe this is a stupid question to ask 195 posts into the thread but what the hell does the EO say? So far all I've seen is that he's signing (just signed) some order but I have no idea what it changes and haven't seen a synopsis on any of the major sites.
Anybody got a link to the changes?
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