ggwilder
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CLEVELAND (Reuters) - A 3-year-old fatally shot a 1-year-old at a Cleveland house during the weekend, according to police, who said they are seeking to arrest the adult who left the gun in the home.
The victim, identified as Braylon Robinson, was shot in the face on Sunday, police said on Monday.
"The mother was in the room with the children facing away from them when she heard a single gunshot. The mother then observed the victim lying on the floor bleeding," according to a statement released by Cleveland police.
The gun was left in a home where several children were playing, police said. Two other children, relatives of the 1-year-old, who were in the house during the shooting did not sustain any injuries and were released to their mother.
The gun has been confiscated and police are trying to track down its ownership. No arrests were made as of Monday morning.
"A 3-year-old can't be held accountable for a tragedy like this," Cleveland Police Chief Calvin Williams said at news conference. "People will be held accountable for this tragedy."
(Reporting by Jon Herskovitz in Austin, Texas, and Kim Palmer in Cleveland; Editing by Susan Heavey and Bill Trott)
This is absolutely tragic, the death of a child, especially so violently and horrifically is a haunting thought as a father myself.
But you can't legislate against stupidity.
Whoever left that gun where it was should face negligent homicide.
true, but I doubt even a 20 year prison sentence will serve as a deterrent to others that stupid
Did you miss the part where the police are looking fro the person who left the gun where the kids could get it??One-year-old shot dead by 3-year old in Cleveland home
Right to bare arms? Shouldn't that right come with responsibility not to have a loaded gun where kids can get hold of them? Surely this is common sense. Another senseless and preventable death...face palm
Gun control? No?
About ten thousand times less than we have to go through the deaths of a children being killed in an auto accidents. More kids are killed by being left in hot cars and they are just as dead as the kid that was shot.How many times are we going to have to go through this?
true, but I doubt even a 20 year prison sentence will serve as a deterrent to others that stupid
About ten thousand times less than we have to go through the deaths of a children being killed in an auto accidents. More kids are killed by being left in hot cars and they are just as dead as the kid that was shot.
Perhaps, but more importantly, now that it's happened, doesn't the owner deserve to be punished for failing to secure his weapon under the law?
if the facts meet the standards under the law then sure
but claiming punishing this person will deter others is contrary to logic
And how many children get in cars each day? Tens of millions?, how many children handle loaded weapons each day? A few less?
Trying to equate the two is silly.
I'm not sure that I agree that making a law that obligates a firearm owner to "reasonable" secure his weapon where children cannot get to it or face a fine/ prison won't motivate anyone, but having said that, I'm much, much more in favor in owners changing the culture of what is acceptable and what is not. Laws can be the start, but it requires people to do the rest if it is going to be truly effective, but one thing I do know is the justification of doing nothing because owners will do it anyway isn't the right way to go either.
Seat belts are one of the best examples I can think of of laws that morph into effective culture change. When I was a kid no one wore them, today a parent with a child in the car without a seat belt is scorned by other members of society.
Enough people were motivated by the law initially, but later on it became an idea enforced by the reasonable expectations of society. If you rescinded the seat belt law, I think a vast majority of people would still wear their seat belts due to societal pressure.
We need the same kind of culture change when it comes to firearms.
Using law to change culture is an assholish approach, imho.
I don't see the need for punishment in cases like this; I don't think they are likely to do it again.
Sometimes you have to fight asshole with asshole.
Passing laws to create social change seems pretty fascist to me.
Have you got a better way? I don't form my political views based on labels, I form them based on effectiveness. Not everything fascism did was bad. For example, if all the stupid people let their kids play with guns there will be less stupid people. There's a fine line between eugenics and personal responsibility.
A Kentucky mother stepped outside of her home just for a few minutes, but it was long enough for her 5-year-old son to accidentally shoot and kill his 2-year-old sister with the .22-caliber rifle he got for his birthday, state officials said.
The shooting that took the life of Caroline Sparks in southern Kentucky has been ruled an accident, Kentucky State Police Trooper Billy Gregory said.
5-year-old Kentucky boy fatally shoots 2-year-old sister - CNN.com
FAYETTE COUNTY, Pa. —
A 2-year-old boy was shot in the head late Thursday night at a home on 2nd Street in Luzerne Township, Fayette County.
Police said the boy accidentally shot himself after finding a gun, owned by his stepfather, in his mother's purse. According to police, charges are not being filed, and the shooting was an accident.
Police: Boy, 2, accidentally shoots self after finding gun in... | www.wpxi.com
CLEVELAND (Reuters) - A 3-year-old fatally shot a 1-year-old at a Cleveland house during the weekend, according to police, who said they are seeking to arrest the adult who left the gun in the home.
One-year-old shot dead by 3-year old in Cleveland home
One-year-old shot dead by 3-year old in Cleveland home
Right to bare arms? Shouldn't that right come with responsibility not to have a loaded gun where kids can get hold of them? Surely this is common sense. Another senseless and preventable death...face palm
Gun control? No?
One-year-old shot dead by 3-year old in Cleveland home
Right to bare arms? Shouldn't that right come with responsibility not to have a loaded gun where kids can get hold of them? Surely this is common sense. Another senseless and preventable death...face palm
Gun control? No?
One-year-old shot dead by 3-year old in Cleveland home
Right to bare arms? Shouldn't that right come with responsibility not to have a loaded gun where kids can get hold of them? Surely this is common sense. Another senseless and preventable death...face palm
Gun control? No?
true, but I doubt even a 20 year prison sentence will serve as a deterrent to others that stupid
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