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On Germany: Trump was right again

Schism

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Liberal NowThis News ripped for 2018 video mocking Trump’s prediction about Germany

Ouch. That left a mark.
 
Schism said:
Liberal NowThis News ripped for 2018 video mocking Trump’s prediction about Germany


Ouch. That left a mark.
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It is not at all unusual for Trump to be right on Germany's mistaken position on doing business with Russia.

Why is it difficult for educated people to remember why NATO was created in the first place?

What was the initial reason why NATO was formed?
  • Why was NATO founded? The North Atlantic Alliance was founded in the aftermath of the Second World War. Its purpose was to secure peace in Europe, to promote cooperation among its members and to guard their freedom – all of this in the context of countering the threat posed at the time by the Soviet Union.
 
Juks said:
Yu lost me at " after he predicted Germany would become dependent on Russian oil, after making their Nord Stream 2 deal with Russia. "

Nordstream 2 doesn't provide any oil, it provides gas.....

I'm moving on to next thread....
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Trump's point about energy dependence being a risk was correct, and there's no escaping that even if you decide to escape the thread.
 
NatMorton said:
Trump's point about energy dependence being a risk was correct, and there's no escaping that even if you decide to escape the thread.
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Trump's point? Anyone here not know Germany getting a huge portion of its gas and oil from Russia was a bad idea? Anyone? Bueller?

And Germany was not alone.

Russian crude oil and petroleum product exports to the U.S. represent 8 percent of all its imported oil and less than 2 percent of the U.S. supply, an NBC News analysis of U.S. and European oil data found. This is a far cry from European nations: About half import most of their oil, and of that imported oil, an average of 20 percent comes from Russia.

The Data Point: Russia, one of the top oil exporters to the U.S., still represents a drop in the U.S. oil supply

Russian oil makes up 8 percent of U.S. oil imports. In most European countries, that number is much higher.
www.nbcnews.com
 
NatMorton said:
Trump's point about energy dependence being a risk was correct, and there's no escaping that even if you decide to escape the thread.
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Such an obvious one that even tRump figured it out, and we all know how stupid he is.
 
CaughtInThe said:
Yes they did. Hell, I knew it way before TFG..
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Well, people with normal brains didn't need anyone to brief us in large print single spaced pages liberally sprinkled with fluff pieces about how great we are.
 
Gateman_Wen said:
Well, people with normal brains didn't need anyone to brief us in large print single spaced pages liberally sprinkled with fluff pieces about how great we are.
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Hang on. I'm getting a vision...



Oh my God. I just saw a future politician telling us that the world having nukes is bad.
 
Juks said:
Yu lost me at " after he predicted Germany would become dependent on Russian oil, after making their Nord Stream 2 deal with Russia. "

Nordstream 2 doesn't provide any oil, it provides gas.....

I'm moving on to next thread....
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Energy, energy, not oil Lets discuss what was actually said. Ok, Trump is a &^%$&, but even one of those can be right now and then, no? So, why move on instead of just admitting just that?
 
Juks said:
Yu lost me at " after he predicted Germany would become dependent on Russian oil, after making their Nord Stream 2 deal with Russia. "

Nordstream 2 doesn't provide any oil, it provides gas.....

I'm moving on to next thread....
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Did you just smarmily stake your entire rebuttal on semantics and think you word something of value? Wow.
 
That pipeline works two ways. Gas flows one way, money flows the other way. Which end is more dependant on the flow continuing?
 
Juks said:
Yu lost me at " after he predicted Germany would become dependent on Russian oil, after making their Nord Stream 2 deal with Russia. "

Nordstream 2 doesn't provide any oil, it provides gas.....

I'm moving on to next thread....
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Those who rely on the facts in a statement will eventually find you and correct you.
Resistance is futile.
 
Gateman_Wen said:
Yeah, they knew. They just didn't have a better alternative and they didn't think it would matter this soon.
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Isn't the better alternative buying gas and oil from a reliable partner like the U.S.?
Isn't that the case now? Pay me now or pay me later?
 
Gateman_Wen said:
Such an obvious one that even tRump figured it out, and we all know how stupid he is.
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Stupid enough to become a billionaire and then president of the greatest country on earth. Any fool can do it, right?
 
Schism said:
Liberal NowThis News ripped for 2018 video mocking Trump’s prediction about Germany


Ouch. That left a mark.
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Thanks for posting that. I think most people forget that Trump beat Clinton. Had his personality been just a little more civil he could still be in office today;

"A number of Republicans with whom I've spoken believe that Trump's bombastic, bullying, unpresidential antics probably cost him as much as 10 percent of the vote. Let's give Trump the benefit of the doubt and say it was only 1 percent. That still equals about 1.5 million votes. And, again, he lost Georgia, Wisconsin and Arizona by a total of just more than 42,000 votes."

It is ironic that one of the things that draws people to Trump, his bombastic personality, is perhaps the downfall of his attempted second term.
 
Jkca1 said:
It is ironic that one of the things that draws people to Trump, his bombastic personality, is perhaps the downfall of his attempted second term.
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One of the greatest ironies of this decade.
Good post.
You should read the Bill Barr book recapping why Trump lost.
Educational and entertaining.
 
jaypatriot said:
Stupid enough to become a billionaire and then president of the greatest country on earth. Any fool can do it, right?
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With a little (lol) help from his dad and a few russian troll farms.
 
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