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Oldest Christian inscription naming JESUS as GOD

You're wrong...happy now?
 
Answer me this...do you pray for God's holy spirit for guidance? I dare say, any good Christian does, including JW's...that is the difference...
 
Answer me this...do you pray for God's holy spirit for guidance? I dare say, any good Christian does, including JW's...that is the difference...
You didn't answer the question I asked first. However, I certainly do not ignore the existence of HIM --- meaning the HOLY SPIRIT. I have NO problem with the use of the word inspired.
 

"Acting as a human and behaved as a perfect human should".......well, duh, he was a human being.

"Yet He also did what only God can do".......foolishness, for God was with and in Christ performing mighty miracles through His Son.
 
"Acting as a human and behaved as a perfect human should".......well, duh, he was a human being.

"Yet He also did what only God can do".......foolishness, for God was with and in Christ performing mighty miracles through His Son.
Only GOD can forgive sin.

Matthew 9:1-8​

Jesus Forgives Sins​

1 Jesus got into a boat, crossed the sea, and came to his own city. 2 Some people brought him a paralyzed man on a stretcher.

When Jesus saw their faith, he said to the man, “Cheer up, friend! Your sins are forgiven.”

3 then some of the experts in Moses’ Teachings thought, “He’s dishonoring God.”

4 Jesus knew what they were thinking. He asked them, “Why are you thinking evil things? 5 Is it easier to say, ‘Your sins are forgiven,’ or to say, ‘Get up and walk’? 6 I want you to know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins.” Then he said to the paralyzed man, “Get up, pick up your stret cher, and go home.”

7 So the man got up and went home. 8 When the crowd saw this, they were filled with awe and praised God for giving such authority to humans.


Mark 2:1-12

Jesus Forgives Sins​

1 Several days later Jesus came back to Capernaum. The report went out that he was home. 2 Many people had gathered. There was no room left, even in front of the door. Jesus was speaking ⌞God’s⌟ word to them.

3 Four men came to him carrying a paralyzed man. 4 Since they could not bring him to Jesus because of the crowd, they made an opening in the roof over the place where Jesus was. Then they lowered the cot on which the paralyzed man was lying.

5 When Jesus saw their faith, he said to the man, “Friend, your sins are forgiven.”

6 Some experts in Moses’ Teachings were sitting there. They thought, 7 “Why does he talk this way? He’s dishonoring God. Who besides God can forgive sins?”

8 At once, Jesus knew inwardly what they were thinking. He asked them, “Why do you have these thoughts? 9 Is it easier to say to this paralyzed man, ‘Your sins are forgiven,’ or to say, ‘Get up, pick up your cot, and walk’? 10 ;I want you to know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins.” Then he said to the paralyzed man, 11 “I’m telling you to get up, pick up your cot, and go home!”

12 The man got up, immediately picked up his cot, and walked away while everyone watched. Everyone was amazed and praised God, saying, “We have never seen anything like this.”
 
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The idea of God in the sky comes from Christianity or is part of Christianity. It seems to be something in pop culture.
 
Only GOD can forgive sin.
So, you doubt God's Word...got it...

“Most truly I say to you, the Son cannot do a single thing of his own initiative, but only what he sees the Father doing. For whatever things that One does, these things the Son does also in like manner." John 5:19
 
The idea of God in the sky comes from Christianity or is part of Christianity. It seems to be something in pop culture.
Many ancient mythologies feature sky deities. For example, the Greek god Uranus personified the sky, and in Roman mythology, Jupiter (from Dyeus), was a sky god. In Hinduism, Dyaus Pita was the sky father. Sky gods predate christianity by millennia.
 
Many ancient mythologies feature sky deities. For example, the Greek god Uranus personified the sky, and in Roman mythology, Jupiter (from Dyeus), was a sky god. In Hinduism, Dyaus Pita was the sky father. Sky gods predate christianity by millennia.
Right Christianity doesn't though. The idea of sky deities related to Christianity comes from pop culture it doesn't come from Christianity.
 
Right Christianity doesn't though. The idea of sky deities related to Christianity comes from pop culture it doesn't come from Christianity.
Unless one imagines "heaven" to be at or below ground level. "The Heavens" is synonymous with the sky, and christianity is overflowing with the heavens.
 
Unless one imagines "heaven" to be at or below ground level. "The Heavens" is synonymous with the sky, and christianity is overflowing with the heavens.
The heavens is what we call the sky because of these ancient religions that put gods in the sky.
 
The heavens is what we call the sky because of these ancient religions that put gods in the sky.
Agreed. I think that was my point. Ancient religions had sky gods, and christianity adopted them the same way it adopted countless other beliefs. From virgin births to dying and resurrection, from baptism to the seven day week, from making holidays of the solstices and equinoxes to performance of miracles, the bulk of the christian rituals and beliefs predate Jesus by centuries. Christianity is nothing more than a patchwork quilt of earlier religions and deities.
 
Agreed. I think that was my point. Ancient religions had sky gods, and christianity adopted them the same way it adopted countless other beliefs.
Christianity didn't adopt them. Heaven in the sky with clouds and such was a 19th century development and it was not based on Christianity.
Do you know why?
 
Christianity didn't adopt them.
Apparently it did.
Heaven in the sky with clouds and such was a 19th century development and it was not based on Christianity.
Heaven in the sky wasn't developed in the 19th century. The Heavens comes right out of the bible. Do you think when the heavens was referenced in the bible, they were talking about across the street? Or in a cave?? Or under the Red Sea??? No. It was a reference to the sky.
Do you know why?
Do I know why what?
 
Apparently it did.
False if you look through the Bible it doesn't give you a description of heaven
Heaven in the sky wasn't developed in the 19th century.
Connection to Christianity was.
The Heavens comes right out of the bible.
Find the description of it.
Do you think when the heavens was referenced in the bible, they were talking about across the street? Or in a cave?? Or under the Red Sea???
No, it was talking about a spiritual state of everlasting communion with God.
No. It was a reference to the sky.
But why?
Do I know why what?
this
 
The wages of sin is death, but the gift of GOD is eternal life through JESUS CHRIST our LORD.
There's no evidence of any of this. None whatsoever. Feel free to hang your hat on it if you like, but spare us the sales pitch. Some of us prefer our beliefs to be based on observable reality, and the bible is anything but.
You do not offer eternal life.
Correct. I would never claim to. But I forgive your sins nevertheless.

You're welcome.
 
The pagan were and are controlled and manipulated by Satan. Satan (the original liar) copies and establishes forgeries that mimic the original that GOD established. Satan even has his very own Satanic trinity. That fact should be enough to conclude that he is striving to mimic a reality of GOD. The Satanic trinity consists of the DRAGON/SERPENT (Satan Himself), the BEAST (AntiChrist), and the False Prophet.
 
False if you look through the Bible it doesn't give you a description of heaven
It doesn't have to describe it explicitly. One more time. When the bible references heaven, where do you picture it? Down in the ally? Just outside of town? Under the cistern? Are you sure you want to have this argument? Here. Let me hold your hand on this one.
Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth,"
What distinguishes the heavens from the earth? Please tell me, oh learned biblical scholar. I'll go out on a limb here and say it refers to THE SKY!
Connection to Christianity was.

Find the description of it.
See above. Or don't bother.
No, it was talking about a spiritual state of everlasting communion with God.

But why?

this
Why were all of those elements associated with christianity taken from religions that predate it? Is that what you're asking?
Since you seem to be the authority on christianity, how about you tell me why?
 
There's no evidence of any of this. None whatsoever. Feel free to hang your hat on it if you like, but spare us the sales pitch. Some of us prefer our beliefs to be based on observable reality, and the bible is anything but.

I listen to many non-Christians and hear their mocking know it all attitudes. And I view their behavior and what they promote as "normal" and "acceptable". If there was no evidence, there would be absolutely no differences. Fortunately, the evidence is there for anyone with a half a brain to observe and regard...
Correct. I would never claim to. But I forgive your sins nevertheless.

You're welcome.
 
Nothing can be metaphorical?
Why were all of those elements associated with christianity taken from religions that predate it?
Yes do you know why?
Is that what you're asking?
Should be obvious when I asked do you know why.
Since you seem to be the authority on christianity, how about you tell me why?
When Christianity expanded into Europe Europeans were practicing paganism. It was a way to bring pagans into the religion without them having to give up important rituals.
 

"They were filled with awe and praised God for giving such authority to humans".....did you miss that part?


Have we so quickly forgotten how Jesus taught us to pray:

(Mat 6:12) And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.

(Mat 6:14) For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
(Mat 6:15) But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

(Luk 6:37) Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:


Do you not know, Jesus ushered in a New Covenant, one where forgiving sins is not only possible for men to do, but a requirement for Christians.


Yes, and this teaches us what?.......that forgiving is better. Jesus knew what was in their hearts knowing they would object at a man forgiving sins, but they as many today still make the mistake believing only God can forgive sins. Learning to forgive sins/trespasses against us is difficult at times, but necessary since Christ. It takes great inward strength to forgive others, look at Jesus.......they were nailing him to the cross and he prayed for the Father to forgive them. That would be the last thought of a weak coward being mistreated in such a manner.

Forgiving is "key" to being a true Christian.