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Oldest Christian inscription naming JESUS as GOD

"They were filled with awe and praised God for giving such authority to humans".....did you miss that part?


Have we so quickly forgotten how Jesus taught us to pray:

(Mat 6:12) And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.

(Mat 6:14) For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
(Mat 6:15) But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

(Luk 6:37) Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:


Do you not know, Jesus ushered in a New Covenant, one where forgiving sins is not only possible for men to do, but a requirement for Christians.



Yes, and this teaches us what?.......that forgiving is better. Jesus knew what was in their hearts knowing they would object at a man forgiving sins, but they as many today still make the mistake believing only God can forgive sins. Learning to forgive sins/trespasses against us is difficult at times, but necessary since Christ. It takes great inward strength to forgive others, look at Jesus.......they were nailing him to the cross and he prayed for the Father to forgive them. That would be the last thought of a weak coward being mistreated in such a manner.

Forgiving is "key" to being a true Christian.
 
The pagan were and are controlled and manipulated by Satan. Satan (the original liar) copies and establishes forgeries that mimic the original that GOD established. Satan even has his very own Satanic trinity. That fact should be enough to conclude that he is striving to mimic a reality of GOD. The Satanic trinity consists of the DRAGON/SERPENT (Satan Himself), the BEAST (AntiChrist), and the False Prophet.
Sounds like you've been listening to a talking serpent again. Even a pair of hip waders don't go high enough to risk wading into that pile of dung.
 
I listen to many non-Christians and hear their mocking know it all attitudes. And I view their behavior and what they promote as "normal" and "acceptable". If there was no evidence, there would be absolutely no differences. Fortunately, the evidence is there for anyone with a half a brain to observe and regard...
The fact that you consider my preference for a belief in observable reality to be "a mocking know it all attitude(s)" says much more about you than it does about me. There are clinical definitions for those who don't believe in observable reality. Perhaps you should explore if they apply to you.
 
Nothing can be metaphorical?
EUREKA! Of course things can be metaphorical. And once a person accedes to the idea that biblical stories are just that - metaphorical - then one must need abandon any adherence to literal biblical inerrancy! As such, any and all parts of that book, anywhere from Genesis to Revelation, can be relegated to nothing more than metaphor. It is metaphor from stem to stern. It is metaphor from the first page to the last.
Yes do you know why?

Should be obvious when I asked do you know why.

When Christianity expanded into Europe Europeans were practicing paganism. It was a way to bring pagans into the religion without them having to give up important rituals.
AGREED! And what does that teach us about the religion?
 
The fact that you consider my preference for a belief in observable reality to be "a mocking know it all attitude(s)" says much more about you than it does about me. There are clinical definitions for those who don't believe in observable reality. Perhaps you should explore if they apply to you.
Yes, It says I recognize condescension and a know it all, when I regard one's view as being nothing but a generalization without substantiation (Example: "It is metaphor from stem to stern. It is metaphor from the first page to the last.") Pure uninvestigated rubbish! You don't really care one way or another --- you just blow it off. And I'm sure that your regard for believers isn't that much different. It's but a generalization. And I long ago "ignored" CLAX1911 for being far worse, by redirecting my time from what was constructive to that of a fun & games time for him. So if you two agree, he cannot be contributing much.
 
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Yes, It says I recognize condescension and a know it all, when I regard one's view as being nothing but a generalization without substantiation (Example: "It is metaphor from stem to stern. It is metaphor from the first page to the last.")
The beauty of believing in observable reality is that it is the ultimate substantiation.
Pure uninvestigated rubbish!
No - quite the contrary. If you believe in the cosmology of Genesis, and the creation myth of Genesis, and the characters in Genesis, then it is YOU who believe in un-investigated rubbish! Because the thoroughly investigated science has already disproved all of that for a few hundred years already, and continues to bury it deeper and deeper into the pile of myths and fables every year that more science is discovered.
You don't really care one way or another --- you just blow it off.
I very much care that so much of the world continues to believe in superstitions, myths, fables and magical thinking. I think it's a huge problem that continues to foster violence and war right up until the present day. One need look no further than the daily news cycle to witness glaring examples of the damage religious belief does to this world, and not just among the Abrahamic religions, but among almost all of them, with very few exceptions.
And I'm sure that your regard for believers isn't that much different. It's but a generalization. And I long ago "ignored" CLAX1911 for being far worse, by redirecting my time from what was constructive to that of a fun & games time for him. So if you two agree, he cannot be contributing much.
I know nothing of CLAX's beliefs. If anything, I think he and I are at opposite ends of the spectrum.
 
The beauty of believing in observable reality is that it is the ultimate substantiation.

No - quite the contrary. If you believe in the cosmology of Genesis, and the creation myth of Genesis, and the characters in Genesis, then it is YOU who believe in un-investigated rubbish! Because the thoroughly investigated science has already disproved all of that for a few hundred years already, and continues to bury it deeper and deeper into the pile of myths and fables every year that more science is discovered.

I believe in GOD. HE is supreme and Creates things the way HE wishes them and as fast as HE desires to. If you don't believe in GOD, that's on you, but don't for one minute imagine that appearances are an absolute way to determine how the earth look at Creation or that the FLOOD of Noah didn't contribute to the look of our topography in anyway.
I very much care that so much of the world continues to believe in superstitions, myths, fables and magical thinking. I think it's a huge problem that continues to foster violence and war right up until the present day. One need look no further than the daily news cycle to witness glaring examples of the damage religious belief does to this world, and not just among the Abrahamic religions, but among almost all of them, with very few exceptions.


The world seem more violent today than it was 60 years ago. At least I, as an 8 year old had pretty much the run of our neighborhood. No shootings, no missing children, drugs were unknown. The Bible prophesied that Israel would be a nation gathered from around the world yet again. True or False? The Bible prophesy surrounding Israel is that it would be under constant attack by various countries namely Russia, Turkey, Egypt, Iran, Libya, and Sudan. True of False? Those countries do not like Israel, and have not since that nation reappeared. Israel is proof that GOD is real and absolute. What HE predicts will happen will happen in due course...

I know nothing of CLAX's beliefs. If anything, I think he and I are at opposite ends of the spectrum.
I will not talk of CLAX ---- it would be unfair of me.
 
I believe in GOD. HE is supreme and Creates things the way HE wishes them and as fast as HE desires to. If you don't believe in GOD, that's on you, but don't for one minute imagine that appearances are an absolute way to determine how the earth look at Creation or that the FLOOD of Noah didn't contribute to the look of our topography in anyway.
I never said I didn't believe in god. Not even once, so please drop that from your already faltering argument. Testable, repeatable science IS a way to determine how earth looked billions of years ago, because the exact same dynamics that exist today existed then, and the evidence for that continuity of billions of years is all around the planet to this day. There is no evidence of Noah's flood, nor any evidence of Noah himself for that matter. None whatsoever. Period. Sorry. Not only that, if the myth of Noah were true, there would be evidence that everyone on earth is descendant from him. We know now from the science of genetic genealogy that that isn't true either, so .... there's that.
The world seem more violent today than it was 60 years ago. At least I, as an 8 year old had pretty much the run of our neighborhood. No shootings, no missing children, drugs were unknown.
Anecdotal. :rolleyes: They all existed when I was 8 years old, except for school shootings, the causes of which are different. The only reason you think there were no missing children is because of the difference of reportage. The data says it was worse back then - not better. Needless to say, drug use also predates your birth by generations.
The Bible prophesied that Israel would be a nation gathered from around the world yet again. True or False? The Bible prophesy surrounding Israel is that it would be under constant attack by various countries namely Russia, Turkey, Egypt, Iran, Libya, and Sudan. True of False? Those countries do not like Israel, and have not since that nation reappeared. Israel is proof that GOD is real and absolute. What HE predicts will happen will happen in due course...
Beliefs in which are exactly what makes you and your like minded believers part of the problem. Your literal beliefs in the bible are a danger to all human life on this planet. You should abandon it, for all our sake's.
I will not talk of CLAX ---- it would be unfair of me.
HUH? Too late. You are the one who brought him up. 🫤
 
I never said I didn't believe in god. Not even once, so please drop that from your already faltering argument. Testable, repeatable science IS a way to determine how earth looked billions of years ago, because the exact same dynamics that exist today existed then, and the evidence for that continuity of billions of years is all around the planet to this day. There is no evidence of Noah's flood, nor any evidence of Noah himself for that matter. None whatsoever. Period. Sorry. Not only that, if the myth of Noah were true, there would be evidence that everyone on earth is descendant from him. We know now from the science of genetic genealogy that that isn't true either, so .... there's that.
There is LOTS of evidence for the FLOOD. The strata is proof of the FLOOD. Most if not all the fossils are proof of the FLOOD. The Alps are proof of the FLOOD. The Grand Canyon is proof of the FLOOD. The Ice Age is proof of the FLOOD. All the stories regarding that seem to follow the very same epic (8 people & animals, man builds a ship, world inundated with water as the result of the displeasure of GOD). The FLOOD happened about 4000 t0 5000 years ago or so. Noah's three sons each had a wife. The environment of the earth has been progressively getting worse since the Fall of man and especially since the FLOOD. One man who survives a Deluge and you expect to find him?

Anecdotal. :rolleyes: They all existed when I was 8 years old, except for school shootings, the causes of which are different. The only reason you think there were no missing children is because of the difference of reportage. The data says it was worse back then - not better. Needless to say, drug use also predates your birth by generations.
It seemed that everyone smoked when I was a kid --- but many didn't. There are far more drugs today and dispensaries are not the half of it. I remember Philadelphia and Camden as a kid, and they were nothing like they are. You could park a new car on the street and come back hours later and it was still there. Guys were not laying all over the sidewalks, bus stops, and church steps. The Mummer's Parade had it's share of drunks but they didn't bother anyone.

Beliefs in which are exactly what makes you and your like minded believers part of the problem. Your literal beliefs in the bible are a danger to all human life on this planet. You should abandon it, for all our sake's.

HUH? Too late. You are the one who brought him up. 🫤
Evolution and Abiogenesis is the cause of all the trouble today. People actually are under the notion that GOD doesn't matter and the reason we exist is all accidental. And the only thing that counts is the material and the here and now. And this life is it, so you better take what you want when you can find it... The Communist countries have been failures of unbelief being the way. It's not and people are not happy.
 
There is LOTS of evidence for the FLOOD. The strata is proof of the FLOOD. Most if not all the fossils are proof of the FLOOD. The Alps are proof of the FLOOD. The Grand Canyon is proof of the FLOOD. The Ice Age is proof of the FLOOD. All the stories regarding that seem to follow the very same epic (8 people & animals, man builds a ship, world inundated with water as the result of the displeasure of GOD). The FLOOD happened about 4000 t0 5000 years ago or so. Noah's three sons each had a wife. The environment of the earth has been progressively getting worse since the Fall of man and especially since the FLOOD. One man who survives a Deluge and you expect to find him?
Not only is there zero proof of the flood, there are mountains of counter evidence.
It seemed that everyone smoked when I was a kid --- but many didn't. There are far more drugs today and dispensaries are not the half of it. I remember Philadelphia and Camden as a kid, and they were nothing like they are. You could park a new car on the street and come back hours later and it was still there. Guys were not laying all over the sidewalks, bus stops, and church steps. The Mummer's Parade had it's share of drunks but they didn't bother anyone.
No mountain of personal anecdotes can eclipse the data.
Evolution and Abiogenesis is the cause of all the trouble today.
That's beyond nonsense. Neither is the cause of the creation of Israel. Neither is the cause of Hamas, or Hezbollah, or Iran's persistent policy for the eradication of Israel. All of that violence that threatens a nuclear exchange is based on bullshit Abrahamic religions.
People actually are under the notion that GOD doesn't matter and the reason we exist is all accidental. And the only thing that counts is the material and the here and now. And this life is it, so you better take what you want when you can find it...
This is no different than it was millennia ago.
The Communist countries have been failures of unbelief being the way. It's not and people are not happy.
There have always been unhappy people. But since you brought it up, the biggest irony is that the countries that score the highest in happiness also just happen to be the same ones who score the lowest in religiosity. The less people suffer under religious superstitions and delusions, the happier they are. Look it up.
 
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