Actually, all lives are very important to me. Put push comes to shove our people have priority.Whos lifes are more important to you:
The Iraqi peoples lifes OR our Troops lifes?
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Libs have alwready chosen "our Troops lifes."
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Hogwash.Our troops' lives, no question about it. Most of the instability in the Middle East has been caused by... wait for it... *US*!
So, no posts from the hard core Cons? I guess they are too embarrassed to let everyone know that they choose the Iraqis lifes as being more important than our troops lifes.
SAD!
So, no posts from the hard core Cons?:waiting: I guess they are too embarrassed to let everyone know that they choose the Iraqis lifes as being more important than our troops lifes.:roll:
SAD!
Hogwash.
The place was a snake-pit before 1776.
We're just a recent player in the age old meddling in the region.
True and?Just saying that others screwed with it before we did doesn't excuse our responsibility for our actions in the region.
Whos lifes are more important to you:
The Iraqi peoples lifes OR our Troops lifes?
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Libs have alwready chosen "our Troops lifes."
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the point under contention is, "Most of the instability in the Middle East has been caused by... wait for it... *US*!"
The instability was there to begin with and we're just mucking with it.
If the US hadn't decided to play in the ME mud, at what point would it have been stable?That's like saying that because the U.S. didn't cause the fall of Jerusalem in 70AD, none of it's our fault. Come on, we're talking modern era problems, do try to keep up.
If the US hadn't decided to play in the ME mud, at what point would it have been stable?
Although it would obviously make things a bit more convenient for you, I would rather not be nuked thank you.At least they wouldn't have been flying planes into our buildings. Personally, I don't care if the entire Middle East gets nuked into a glass desert, outside of the fallout issue, that's probably the best thing we can hope for. It's little more than a bunch of children kicking sand at each other.
So we're agreed that the ME would be a snake pit with or without US involvement?At least they wouldn't have been flying planes into our buildings. Personally, I don't care if the entire Middle East gets nuked into a glass desert, outside of the fallout issue, that's probably the best thing we can hope for. It's little more than a bunch of children kicking sand at each other.
Our troops' lives, no question about it. Most of the instability in the Middle East has been caused by... wait for it... *US*! Can't we leave these poor people alone to live as they see fit, not as we want them to live?
Well, no. The single largest cause of instability in the ME in modern times was, regardless of whether you think it good or bad, the creation of the state of Israel. The resulting implacable hatred between Israelis and Arabs begs the question: how does anybody begin to contemplate a settlement, how can peace ever become a reality in such an environment?
There is a dedication in the Islamic world to removing Israel off the face of the map and an equal determination in Israel to survive. What is of real concern is that this new form of Holocaust - thats what it really is, an extermination program - gets the bulk of its inspiration from Iran.
Iraq may get the majority of headlines these days, because thats where the US effort is currently centered, but US efforts in Iraq are certainly not the root cause of ME instability. Exacerbated? Perhaps. But root cause? No.
Although it would obviously make things a bit more convenient for you, I would rather not be nuked thank you.
_________Globalization has made the world much smaller and these festering pockets of the world that house backwards throwbacks to the middle ages have to eventually be cleaned up. The world is simply too small to have different civilizations attempting to coexist simultaneously while belonging to different eras. I think many in the Middle East recognize that and they know that their backward ways won't survive as the world continues to shrink and its no longer possible to keep the ways of the west out so they fight. The ones that don't eventually learn to adapt and evolve will be annihilated because the behaviors and beliefs they cling to have no place in the future and they've proven time and time again that they refuse to co-exist.
As far as invading Iraq in particular, in my opinion, it was sound strategy. Iraq was in violation of the UN. And after we attacked they say terrorists poured into Iraq from all over the region. So I say GENIUS. No sense in playing where's WALDO when you can draw them right to you like moths to a flame. Whether or not it goes down in history as a begining step in cleaning up the middle east...well it's too early to tell. But I firmly believe it is not a matter of weighing the life of an Iraqi against the life of one of our soldiers. I couldn't be more proud or have more respect for our soldiers because I know they risk their lives not only for me and my children but generations and generations to come.
The modern State of Israel was created by UN Resolution 181.It probably can't and I agree with you, the formation of Israel was a horrible, horrible mistake. The US and UK felt guilty over the holocaust so they caved in and granted Israel a spot guaranteed to piss everyone off.
Although imagining the Atlantic collapsing upon Hamas and Fatah is great imagery, I think not lol.I can sure see your point. Do you think you might, perhaps, want to make a mass 'exodus' until things would be safe. Perhaps, parting the seas to America, then, when the dust settles, go back.
It probably can't and I agree with you, the formation of Israel was a horrible, horrible mistake. The US and UK felt guilty over the holocaust so they caved in and granted Israel a spot guaranteed to piss everyone off.
What do you expect? You've got religious zealots on both sides who hate the other's guts and want nothing more than to see everyone on the other side dead. Add to that all the Dominionist Christians in the US who want to see Israel raise the new temple and usher in the end of the world... it's all a bunch of lunatics.
No, but it's U.S. involvement in the Middle East that has caused the problems. Who helped put Israel there? The U.S. Who has protected them? The U.S. Who has supplied a ridiculous amount of foreign aid, weaponry, etc. The U.S.
Whos lifes are more important to you:
The Iraqi peoples lifes OR our Troops lifes?
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Libs have alwready chosen "our Troops lifes."
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Our troops' lives, no question about it. Most of the instability in the Middle East has been caused by... wait for it... *US*!
Can't we leave these poor people alone to live as they see fit, not as we want them to live?
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