Observed humidity trends in dry regions contradict climate models

[Lord of Planar]

No, I'm not confused. Evaporation and condensation cancell each other out with regard to warming.

Yas.

Whether this happens in the same square mile or over a long distance is irrelevant.

It is not irrelavant for the regions that now have a changing pattern of weather.

There are two large bodies of water, many smaller lakes and rivers in the area. Lots of evaporation. No cooling.

Sure it cools. It would be warmer there without those bodies of water.

 

[Michael Cole]

Yas.

It is not irrelavant for the regions that now have a changing pattern of weather.

Now you appear confused.

The water cycle neither cools nor warms the planet. That's the point. I tried expanding the conversation to include the heat island effect and how topography contributes to this.

Sure it cools. It would be warmer there without those bodies of water.

Until the water condenses. You seem to think water evaporates in heavily mountainous terrain and simply blows away to condense elsewhere. That's not what happens as I've been trying to explain.

This is moot anyway, as Northern Nevada has warmed twice as much as the next area. Las Vegas at #3 would be expected to lead the pack, intuitively. Much hotter and bigger than both Reno and Boise. This tells us there's more happening than the heat island effect. The apparent difference is topography, as I've noted. I haven't looked into the effects of altitude - UV is more intense at higher altitudes, but temperature is lower - so that could also be a factor.

 

[Lord of Planar]

Now you appear confused.

The water cycle neither cools nor warms the planet. That's the point. I tried expanding the conversation to include the heat island effect and how topography contributes to this.


Until the water condenses. You seem to think water evaporates in heavily mountainous terrain and simply blows away to condense elsewhere. That's not what happens as I've been trying to explain.

This is moot anyway, as Northern Nevada has warmed twice as much as the next area. Las Vegas at #3 would be expected to lead the pack, intuitively. Much hotter and bigger than both Reno and Boise. This tells us there's more happening than the heat island effect. The apparent difference is topography, as I've noted. I haven't looked into the effects of altitude - UV is more intense at higher altitudes, but temperature is lower - so that could also be a factor.

If you are going to refuse to separate global from regional.... We are done.

 

[Michael Cole]

If you are going to refuse to separate global from regional.... We are done.

Looks like you're giving up. That's up to you.

My point has been made, repeatedly. I've corrected your errors and yes, there's not much else to say. Water doesn't necessarily evaporate and blow away to condense elsewhere. So, unless you have something to counter this, yes, we're done.

 

[Lord of Planar]

Looks like you're giving up. That's up to you.

My point has been made, repeatedly. I've corrected your errors and yes, there's not much else to say. Water doesn't necessarily evaporate and blow away to condense elsewhere. So, unless you have something to counter this, yes, we're done.

No. You are full of errors. You refuse to separate regional and global. I have agreed that on the global scale the balance in there. You keep beating that dead horse.

You lose.

 

[Michael Cole]

No. You are full of errors. You refuse to separate regional and global.

Lol. You're not making sense, but it's mildly amusing.

I have agreed that on the global scale the balance in there.

After how many posts?

You keep beating that dead horse.

No, the horse wouldn't die. It's dead now. Good to see you acknowledge my points.

You lose.

Lol. Nah. I win. Every day. This may be a fast-warming city, but where else can you go skiing in the morning and play golf in the afternoon?

Have a live shot from 9,700 ft.



Enjoy your day. I always do.