Obama's vs Trump's plan for a nuclear Iran!

independentusa · Jan 6, 2020

Obam's plan was to have a treaty that kept Iran from having nukes for at least ten years and the plan allowed for even more time. It included inspections which were going as well as can be expected and the inspectors said Iran was mostly sticking to the agreement. Obama gave Iran 50 billion of the 150 billion of Iranian money we had frozen in US controlled banks, keeping the majority of the money back to insure Iran's cooperation.
Trump's plan was to end the Iran deal and put into place even hasher sanctions than in the past which has caused Iran economic problem, but seems not to have changed their actions in the Middle East. Trump has now bombed an Iranian general and Iran has stated that they are ending the Iran deal totally. So within a very few years, Iran will have the bomb and be able to do as NK can do, thumb their nose at us.
Under which plan do you think Iran will become a nuclear nation sooner?

Dans La Lune · Jan 6, 2020

independentusa said:
Obam's plan was to have a treaty that kept Iran from having nukes for at least ten years and the plan allowed for even more time. It included inspections which were going as well as can be expected and the inspectors said Iran was mostly sticking to the agreement. Obama gave Iran 50 billion of the 150 billion of Iranian money we had frozen in US controlled banks, keeping the majority of the money back to insure Iran's cooperation.
Trump's plan was to end the Iran deal and put into place even hasher sanctions than in the past which has caused Iran economic problem, but seems not to have changed their actions in the Middle East. Trump has now bombed an Iranian general and Iran has stated that they are ending the Iran deal totally. So within a very few years, Iran will have the bomb and be able to do as NK can do, thumb their nose at us.
Under which plan do you think Iran will become a nuclear nation sooner?

“Again, zero is less than ten. We have to agree on this or we’re all ****ed.” - John Oliver

Condor060 · Jan 6, 2020

independentusa said:
Obam's plan was to have a treaty that kept Iran from having nukes for at least ten years and the plan allowed for even more time. It included inspections which were going as well as can be expected and the inspectors said Iran was mostly sticking to the agreement. Obama gave Iran 50 billion of the 150 billion of Iranian money we had frozen in US controlled banks, keeping the majority of the money back to insure Iran's cooperation.
Trump's plan was to end the Iran deal and put into place even hasher sanctions than in the past which has caused Iran economic problem, but seems not to have changed their actions in the Middle East. Trump has now bombed an Iranian general and Iran has stated that they are ending the Iran deal totally. So within a very few years, Iran will have the bomb and be able to do as NK can do, thumb their nose at us.
Under which plan do you think Iran will become a nuclear nation sooner?

Thats a cool story. It isn't based in anything but fantasy, but a cool story just the same.

1. First off, every expert in the field has stated for the record that if Iran wanted to expedite a deliverable nuclear device, they have the ability to provide enough enriched uranium to complete a weapon in less than 45 days. Not 10 years.

2. Obama's agreement doesn't stop the production of enriched uranium as they agreed to allow Iran to continue those programs for medical and farming needs.

3. Obama gave Iran 1.7 billion in cash, not 50 billion. It was 400 million paid to the US for weapons plus interest. The money was held for judgements against Iran for 19 terrorist attacks to be paid to American families who lost their family members to these attacks. The reason Obama flew it over in cash on a jet in the middle of the night was he couldn't wire it due to the sanctions against Iran at the time.

4. The agreement specifies two reactors plus any off sight nuclear facilities to allow inspections

5. The UN wasn't inspecting the off sight locations

6. Nikki Haley demanded the UN inspect these and asked, How can you guarantee Iran is complying when you won't inspect the off sight locations

7. Iran has refused to allow those inspections as they are on military facilities

8. Trump imposed sanctions until they allow those inspections

9. In return, Iran attacked ships, confiscated ships, put mines on ships, shot down our drone, and attacked our embassy

Now you know the real story. Still pulling for Iran?

Bullseye · Jan 6, 2020

Condor060 said:
Thats a cool story. It isn't based in anything but fantasy, but a cool story just the same.

1. First off, every expert in the field has stated for the record that if Iran wanted to expedite a deliverable nuclear device, they have the ability to provide enough enriched uranium to complete a weapon in less than 45 days. Not 10 years.

2. Obama's agreement doesn't stop the production of enriched uranium as they agreed to allow Iran to continue those programs for medical and farming needs.

3. Obama gave Iran 1.7 billion in cash, not 50 billion. It was 400 million paid to the US for weapons plus interest. The money was held for judgements against Iran for 19 terrorist attacks to be paid to American families who lost their family members to these attacks. The reason Obama flew it over in cash on a jet in the middle of the night was he couldn't wire it due to the sanctions against Iran at the time.

4. The agreement specifies two reactors plus any off sight nuclear facilities to allow inspections

5. The UN wasn't inspecting the off sight locations

6. Nikki Haley demanded the UN inspect these and asked, How can you guarantee Iran is complying when you won't inspect the off sight locations

7. Iran has refused to allow those inspections as they are on military facilities

8. Trump imposed sanctions until they allow those inspections

9. In return, Iran attacked ships, confiscated ships, put mines on ships, shot down our drone, and attacked our embassy

Now you know the real story. Still pulling for Iran?

Folks on the left still cling to their Dear Leader and his infallibility. IF Obama did it, it can be no less than perfect in every way. The Israelis told us years ago Iran was punking us, and had something like a half-ton of documents to prove it. Even co-signers of the document expressed doubts.

independentusa · Jan 6, 2020

Bullseye said:
Folks on the left still cling to their Dear Leader and his infallibility. IF Obama did it, it can be no less than perfect in every way. The Israelis told us years ago Iran was punking us, and had something like a half-ton of documents to prove it. Even co-signers of the document expressed doubts.

Oh yes, I ceertainly believe anything that BIBI tells us. Isn't he being tried for something in Israel? I did not like everything that Obama did, but I do not end stuff just because everyone likes Obama better than trump as Trump has done. Stupid is as stupid does and Trump is stupod.

Condor060 · Jan 6, 2020

Bullseye said:
Folks on the left still cling to their Dear Leader and his infallibility. IF Obama did it, it can be no less than perfect in every way. The Israelis told us years ago Iran was punking us, and had something like a half-ton of documents to prove it. Even co-signers of the document expressed doubts.

You can't tell an idiot anything. Its no different than the scam impeachment. Put up a bunch of hearsay witness that can't testify in court, deny any request for any opposition testimony, vote for a partisan only impeachment, then cry like a bunch of idiots because their articles on impeachment have no teeth.

No difference here. If you don't like the story, just tell it anyway you want too so you can make accusations against others.

apdst · Jan 6, 2020

independentusa said:
Obam's plan was to have a treaty that kept Iran from having nukes for at least ten years and the plan allowed for even more time. It included inspections which were going as well as can be expected and the inspectors said Iran was mostly sticking to the agreement. Obama gave Iran 50 billion of the 150 billion of Iranian money we had frozen in US controlled banks, keeping the majority of the money back to insure Iran's cooperation.
Trump's plan was to end the Iran deal and put into place even hasher sanctions than in the past which has caused Iran economic problem, but seems not to have changed their actions in the Middle East. Trump has now bombed an Iranian general and Iran has stated that they are ending the Iran deal totally. So within a very few years, Iran will have the bomb and be able to do as NK can do, thumb their nose at us.
Under which plan do you think Iran will become a nuclear nation sooner?

Obama's plan was to pay them off

Bullseye · Jan 6, 2020

independentusa said:
Oh yes, I ceertainly believe anything that BIBI tells us. Isn't he being tried for something in Israel? I did not like everything that Obama did, but I do not end stuff just because everyone likes Obama better than trump as Trump has done. Stupid is as stupid does and Trump is stupod.

So, your entire argument is "Trump!:wicked:"? Solid logic their big guy. :roll:

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