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Obama's Speech August 31, 2010

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FOXNews.com - TRANSCRIPT: President Obama's Oval Office Speech on Iraq

A vapid, droning speech... from a guy that was lock step against everything in Iraq, like his treasonous party.

There were moments he praised the troops, but I question whether it was from the heart. He opposed everything, accused our troops of air raiding villages and killing civilians... and had to be smacked upside the head to put his hand over his heart, and to wear an American Flag lapel pin.

I wonder how many watched this and could see through the charade.

He is unbelievable.

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Do you have anyting of substance? I get it that you don't like the guy, so what? Who cares what YOU think.
 
Americans Oppose Renewing U.S. Combat Operations in Iraq

You mean that he agree's with the majority of americans that the Iraq war hasn't made us any safer and hasn't made the middle east any more stable?

I wonder why someone would be against a war that hasn't made us any safer, hasn't provided stability to the region and cost us a buttload of money...
 
Do you have anyting of substance? I get it that you don't like the guy, so what? Who cares what YOU think.

ROTFLOL... then I suggest you leave now. It is an arena of clashing ideas.
Sorry to break it to ya, and btw, your thin skin is showing.

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As for not making us safer... you really have to be kidding. You're not!:doh

Not safer? Seems you disagree with Obama. After all, he wouldn't be ending this if we weren't safe... would he?

I wonder why his party didn't vote against the war, the principle'd lot (ROTFLMAO), instead of voting for the war, and then turning on our troops when they needed their help most?

No, instead the Dems sought our defeat in Iraq, and the Journolists piled on. And for what? Political power... not national security... political power.

Talk about a sick lot.

Tell me, what did we do to deserve 911?
Tell me, do you recall Gulf War 1?
16 UN resolutions? Connect-the-dots?
Dems wanting and getting a second vote to go to war.
Hillary schooling Code Pink about what she knew from The Impeached One's years at the helm?

BTW, you forgot a couple Dem talking points for Zombies... Halliburton, Cheney, Neocon, Rumsfeld.

Perhaps next time.

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Pres. Obama did speak out against the War in Iraq, and he was correct in doing so. There was no clear evidence that Saddam ever had WMD's as was the pretext for going to war against Iraq, nor was their any evidence whatsoever that linked Saddam or the Iraqi gov't with the 9/11 terror plot. The only reasons U.S. forces stayed in Iraq after the mission was "accomplished" :roll: was:

- because of the constant insurgeant attacks on U.S. & coalition forces; and,
- because we (Bush-Cheney administration) tried to put permanent military bases in Iraq.

Those who were concerned about our continued presence was correct. Had we left when the mission was declared "over", the insurgeancy would never have happened. The surge was necessary to counter those Islamic extremist guerrilla strikes. I'm glad it worked because until then our forces were getting their butts handed to them.

We pulled up stakes because of an agreement GW Bush made with the Iraqi government to have ALL U.S. & coalition forces out of Iraq by December, 2011. Therefore, this is one an area where I won't give President Obama credit. In this case, he simply monitored the "clean-up effort" in Iraq and pulled our combat troops out by his deadline effectively living up to the Bush/Iraq accord. Since troops would still need to be out of Iraq by December 2011 anyway, I don't see this as "victory" for him as much as I see it an end to an un-necesary war. As such, the victory goes to those who survived and their families.

"Welcome home, comrades!"
 
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As for not making us safer... you really have to be kidding. You're not!:doh

Not safer? Seems you disagree with Obama. After all, he wouldn't be ending this if we weren't safe... would he?
I said that the majority of americans thought that the iraq war didn't make us any safer, not that we are unsafe. Read what I wrote and then I wouldn't have to waste time typing something twice.
I wonder why his party didn't vote against the war, the principle'd lot (ROTFLMAO), instead of voting for the war, and then turning on our troops when they needed their help most?
When people are running around screaming about being hours away from having a giant mushroom cloud in the sky on the horizon sometimes people don't make the best judgement. It doesn't excuse their poor choices and bad decisions but it certainly helps me understand why they could come to those conclusions. The dems didn't turn on the soldiers. All of this bull**** about being antiwar or for pulling out of Iraq is the exact same as being against the troops is just that... bull****.
You're really gonna talk about talking points after that post? I didn't mention any of those talking points because they are just that. Perhaps next time you reply you can stick to the issue rather than build up these strawmen about stuff I didn't even bring up.

We'd be much better off today if we had never gone in in the first place. You may know continue you're tripe about the dem's hating the troops and whatnot. I'll be in another thread with a little less hyperbole.
 
Aside from the speech largely sounding self-congratulating for he and his base, it was a mediocre speech that failed to give strategic credit to his predecessors and failed to deliver a message with how a War on Terrorism will continue to be unleashed.
 
 
 
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But none of that proved that Saddam still had an active NBC program. It was and still remains speculations on the part of the Bush-Cheney Administration. Put bluntly...

NO WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION WERE EVER FOUND IN THE SEVEN YEARS OF THE WAR IN IRAQ!!!

None!

Zero!

Zip!

NAHDAH!!!

So, no matter what that administration or UN Weapons insectors thought Saddam might have been hiding, until it could be proved pre- but especially post-Iraq War that he had the types of weapons for which this country went to war to either prevent him from making or confiscate WMD (seize or destroy if you prefer), posting commentary from Hans Blix doesn't take way the FACT that NONE WERE EVER FOUND!!!

I would suggest you read the document entitled, "Iraq: Setting the Record Straight".
 
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Hans Blix was in Iraq with his UN inspection team and had to leave when Bush decided to invade. Why didn't Bush allow the team to complete their mission?
 
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The oval office speech was a political commercial. Simple as that.
 

Your lack of critical thinking is astonishing.

No weapons were found, but even Blix noted weaponized VX and Anthrax were unaccounted for, and that Saddam was jerking them around for years. Saddam had vast quantities and was evil enough to use them!

12-years, 16 Resolutions. Blix noted this should have been a couple or few year job, bnot 12-years of hide-and-seek.

Bush went to the UN, got a unanimous vote from the Sec. Council. He gave Saddam a chance. He did not take it. After 911 and a president that wagged his finger, made threats and did nothing, this was no time to flinch with the world's idiots watching.

Let's try it another way. You have a known sexual predator that has made the house next door home (lucky you). He breaks into your daughter's room while she is sleeping, you enter the room after hearing strange noises (he is about to use WMD), you shoot the prick. Now, how did you know he was castrated? Are you going to wait for ages until he pulls out his balless dick, or are you going to assume he is armed and dangerous and could harm your daughter irreparably?

Saddam led people to believe he was armed and dangerous (and it doesn't take much to kill masses with that crap... do a wiki on VX and ANTHRAX)... for 12-years. Blix believed he still was, and also noted Saddam would likely reconstitute his programs.

Hans Blix was in Iraq with his UN inspection team and had to leave when Bush decided to invade. Why didn't Bush allow the team to complete their mission?
Because Saddam was playing his games. Bush said no games, come clean, one chance only. Saddam was given chances, perhaps because he believed he'd bought of the UN and he was dealing with a president as feeble and hollow as Clinton.

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Anyone who starts out like this post starts out cqan't be taken seriously.
 
Hans Blix was in Iraq with his UN inspection team and had to leave when Bush decided to invade. Why didn't Bush allow the team to complete their mission?

Finding out the truth didn't fit his narrative. When you start with the answer you want, and you have to make sure nothing happens to disprove that answer.
 
a good fireside speech without the fire
 

Anyone who starts out like this post starts out cqan't be taken seriously.

What do you call individuals that send men and women to battle, and then turn on them and their mission, declaring the war lost, claiming the Surge is not working? What side are these people on? And now the man who said our troops were air raiding villages and terrorizing civilians delivered a hollow performance. Because we know what side he stood on.

Patriotic... my ass.
You think the troops like and respect this bufoon? Go visit http://forums.military.com/eve
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Hate to pop your partisan nonsense bubble, but no one truned on THEM. Many fought for them and against the harm Bush was doing to them. You have to care about wasting their lives needlessly in order to fight for them. If those lives mean little to a parson, that person will accept any reason to spend those those lives. Some of us value their lives and don't want them spend recklessly or without just cause or a valid reason.

Too many on your side of the isle simply played stupid and tried to trun real concerns into something unpatriotic. Such people are vile and dishonest. There is no place in reasoned discourse for such stupidity and deception. So, no, you can't start out the way you do in this thread and be taken seriously.
 

Again, NO PROOF! Just alot of speculation, but nothing concrete. And other than Iraqies and Iran, who else did Saddam use his chemical weapons against? NOBODY! Yeah, he launched a few SCUD missiles at Isreal, but none hit their target. Plus, Isreal can pretty much hold their own. In any case, we still had their back.

BTW, my critical thinking ability is just fine. I just don't believe our President should lie to the American people - no...scare the country using misleading information - to justify going to war.

But it's over now...cost the country over 4,400 lives and billions of dollars and for what? To bring democracy to a country that didn't ask us to interven in their affairs? I hope history proves it was worth it and that we never have to go back there again.
 
Lets just get one thing straight here, you can support the troops, without supporting the war. They are not exclusive to each other.

Just before that gets tossed around some more.
 
WARNING: TRUTH ALERT!!!
Bush Lied, People Died Dems reading this must have telephone at the ready to dial 911 in case serious health problems emerge from reading what follows.
Note: The UN Inspecteurs de la UN were kicked out less than 1-year later.


CRG: Dr David Kay's Testimony to the Senate Armed Services Committee
January 28, 2004 Wednesday
COMMITTEE: SENATE ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE

Now on to the Dems selective memory:
Hate to pop your partisan nonsense bubble, but no one truned on THEM. Many fought for them and against the harm Bush was doing to them.
Harm Bush was doing? Seems Obama said it was a success.
To think you actually believe the Left didn't turn on Bush is hilarious... absolutely one of the biggest larfs on this site. Check their votes for the war, then check their projectile vomit rhetoric, supported by the equally vile Journolists.

More revealing poison: Their lives were not wasted. They did not die in vain. Their mission was not reckless. What was reckless was the Dems and their leadership scoring huge headlines for folks like al Jazeera. None worse than a Democrat declaring "the war is lost" while our troops are on the battle field. Calling them Nazi's... air raiding villages and terrorizing civilians... all from the lips of Dem's treasonous leaders.

With your logic, pre-911 we should have left bin Laden alone. Taking him out (Clinton had the opportunity and balked) would have saved 3000 lives and all the destruction in NYC, DC and the plane that went down in PA. But we need more evidence to take care of business... even though Saddam lost Gulf War 1 and agreed to disarm.

Yes, you have to care... and Bush did... but the bigger picture is we had a guy that lost Gulf War 1, was supposed to disarm and hadn't after 12-years and 16 UN Resolutions. Post 911... Bush gave Saddam a chance. Now we have a democracy established, where Dems claimed it couldn't happen. Just go back and listen to the crap out of Biden's mouth alone. Wrong and disgusting... the entire lot of you SAPs.

ROTFLMFAO... played stupid? You folks and your leadership acted in a treasonous manner and now want to be forgiven. Your side voted on this TWICE... and asked for the second vote... so... Screw you. Your record is clear... just as it was in Vietnam... but this time your aiding and abetting the enemy didn't work.

There was ONE democrat who went against the perverted mania of your party, and look what happened to Lieberman? Look at what Dems tried to do to him. Why? Because he was the lone wolf supporting the mission fully.

It's not as if Americans couldn't vote on it either. They did in 2004, and Bush's stay the course won... vs. Dr. Flip Flop.

A lot of speculation... ROTFLOL.

Who else did he use WMD against... ROTFLOL... like we need further proof he would use them... or perhaps hand them off to terrorists. He only tried to assassinate a former president; I guess that was a love note to America?

Have you forgotten Saddam invaded a neighbor, lost Gulf War 1 and was supposed to disarm? Not in 12-years, not play hide-and-seek... as noted by Hans Blix. Also noted by Blix was his belief the programs would be reconstituted. Not anymore they're not.


BTW, my critical thinking ability is just fine. I just don't believe our President should lie to the American people - no...scare the country using misleading information - to justify going to war.
Your critical thinking is awash in poison.
There is nothing critical about it. You cannot face facts:

1. Dems voted for the war, asking for a second vote of support and getting it. These votes were for political expediency.
2. Foreign governments agreed he had WMD.
3. Blix believed he had WMD.
4. Congress for years warned about Saddam, with POTUS Clinton and VP Gore claiming he was a threat and threatening action (war).
5. The Dems turned on the troops and the mission for political expediency.
6. Democracy has taken hold in Iraq, a nuke blackmarket stopped, and terrorist influence in the country reduced.
7. Dems now seek to rewrite their treasonous past.


But it's over now...cost the country over 4,400 lives and billions of dollars and for what? To bring democracy to a country that didn't ask us to interven in their affairs?
Didn't ask us to intervene? Unbelievable... LOL... yeah, I guess not... 100% of the folks voted for Saddam in his last "election". We intervened during Gulf War 1, and from there the job of disarmament was not finished after 12-years and 16 UN resolutions. You see, there is a history and reason we were there.

Do you recall George Tenet claiming the WMD case was a "Slam Dunk"? Of course not... Bush should ignore the reams of evidence that Saddam's closed, brutal society had WMD... especially post 911, and post 911 ANTHRAX attacks on the Capitol.

Blix stated the case; weaponized VX and ANTHRAX... playing hide-and-seek. David Kay adds to Blix's case:


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Lets just get one thing straight here, you can support the troops, without supporting the war. They are not exclusive to each other.

Just before that gets tossed around some more.
Yeah let's pull the cover off and expose the crap underneath.

Support the troops but not the mission?
ROTFLOL... means you do not support the troops. You harm their mission, and thereby harm the troops. You embolden the enemy. That is not supporting the troops. Nothing remotely close. And it's not as if you folks were silent about this... you folks were rabid.

But "you can support the troops, without supporting the war"... that's Liberal "Logic" for ya.

In fact, you folks were hostile, and your leadership irresponsible at best, treasonous at worst. Your party is the favorite of al Jazeera... why?

Dems leaders claiming to the world:
"The surge isn't working". (This mantra was party wide)
"The war is lost".
"Nazi's".
"Air raiding villages and terrorizing civilians".

This about our own troops while they are fighting on the battle field!!!

"Bush lied, people died"...

Some support.

Now, go crawl back under your rocks; treasonous lot.

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Nough said.
 
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