Obama's Secret Kill List

I think rather than widen the scope of this conflict over cultural, geopolitical and strategic resources we (Obama) could've started to scale down and negotiate from a stance of firm but peaceful resolve. The continuation of drone assassinations involving innocent casualties only deepens the divide and creates more recruits for the fanatical resistance against US interests. We could keep an eye on the more aggressive campaigns and camps without going after every cell loosely affiliated. I think sometimes the more tempered the responses the less interested the adversary is in continuing their long term plans.

Historically many peace accords and conflict resolutions came after intense offensives and there should be a winding down of the tactics we use to strike first.

I like the idea that there's not an Al Quaea terrorist anywhere in the world that doesn't go to bed at night wondering if this is the night he's paid a visit by a drone. Screw them - and those who give them shelter. They brought this on themselves.

Zyphlin said:

Strangely enough my issues with Obama in 08 wasn't largely based around his foreign policy stances regarding national defense because...to be frank...I trusted George W. Bush's statement to him that he should hold off on making promises until he see's the intel. Every bit of contacts I have within the various fields that touch the Intelligence world hint to a reality different than what a lot of average people think or assume. Obama following much of Bush's path, with natural evolutoins and with political camoflauge at times, didn't shock me in the least.

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Being on the ground level in the active circle of foriegn policy, I wasn't shocked either. It's always the same from one to the next. The President may change. The world I deploy(ed) to does not.

Zyphlin said:

It's funny...Nicholson's speech in a Few Good Men was meant to be portrayed as a bad thing it seems, and yet in many ways it rings true. What's beyond that Wall is a nasty, nasty thing and people have the stomach to bitch about it only because they don't have to be the ones on that wall.

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It was very cliche. But rings true. The world is nasty. It's only harder when Americans try to inject their personal themes of morality when their comfort levels allow them. The sad truth is that most protestors, while using words like "justification" as they act as moral superiors, are merely arguing for ways to justify apathy or ignorance. They spend more time justifying why not to take a stand. Another truth is that no one can crawl through the gutter without soiling their clothes. This is true for governments as well. Hypocracy belongs to the protestor. It is human nature to look down upon those who have to much tough decisions. Given the option of a starving family and robbing a store, many become desperate criminals. Hell, Somali fishermen turned into pirates once their fishing grounds were ruined by European and Chinese developed countries. But the wealthy, so comfortable in their life situation, love to judge and criticize.....until the Stock Market Crashes. Then they look for any way to compensate or simply throw themselves out of windows and prove that morality is largely a matter of convenience. American protestors are very comfortable in their conveniences.

If Obama supposedly has an Assassination List, and that list includes 17-year-olds and American citizens, does he deserve his Noble Peace Prize?

Wake said:

If Obama supposedly has an Assassination List, and that list includes 17-year-olds and American citizens, does he deserve his Noble Peace Prize?

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traitors deserve to die.

Thunder said:

traitors deserve to die.

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Sounds peaceful.

No, Obama does not deserve his Nobel Peace prize because a) he continued the war and b) we now see he has a secret Kill List. And those are only two things mentioned.

:applaud

Zyphlin said:

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Fights are nasty things...whether it's a one on one ally brawl or full scale war. There's nothing really pretty or sweet or clean about them. They are dirty, nasty, ugly things that sometimes are necessary despite that dirty, nasty, and ugliness. Those of us who don't have to be involved in those fights...we are lucky in that we get to mostly keep our hands clean and enjoy the benefits of those who don't. However, the more we attempt to convince ourselves that somehow our little bubble world is no different than the nasty, dirty, ugly one they live in and the more we try to tell them how they need to survive in that world of theirs then the closer and closer we get to a time where that nasty, dirty, ugly world is going to end up popping that bubble....and god help all those idiots who think they know how to handle the muck at that point in time.

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I could not, and would not have said this better myself....excellent.

I wonder where these ranked on Obama's kill list?

grip said:

I think rather than widen the scope of this conflict over cultural, geopolitical and strategic resources we (Obama) could've started to scale down and negotiate from a stance of firm but peaceful resolve. The continuation of drone assassinations involving innocent casualties only deepens the divide and creates more recruits for the fanatical resistance against US interests. We could keep an eye on the more aggressive campaigns and camps without going after every cell loosely affiliated. I think sometimes the more tempered the responses the less interested the adversary is in continuing their long term plans.

Historically many peace accords and conflict resolutions came after intense offensives and there should be a winding down of the tactics we use to strike first.

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I personally hope he drops a drone on every frickin' terrorist he can find.

Thunder said:

traitors deserve to die.

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Does that include people who have leaked secret intelligence, helped our enemies and put people at risk?

I wonder how many paranoid gun nuts think that they're on this list.

Paschendale said:

I wonder how many paranoid gun nuts think that they're on this list.

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All you have to do is look around this forum and find anybody living the Big Liberal Brother delusion. They're the most likely to believe that the government actually gives two ****s about their broke asses and their meagre contributions to hill billy society.

Obama's Secret Kill List

It probably should read, "President Obama's leaked kill list."

Is this the transparency in government Obama promised?