Health insurers will terminate coverage for up to 250,000 Pennsylvanians as Obamacare unfolds with a troubled website that has prevented many from enrolling in plans online, the state Insurance commissioner said.
“It's a Kafkaesque nightmare,” said Michael Consedine, the state's chief insurance regulator.
Such cancellations are occurring nationwide, despite “promises that were made” by President Obama that people could keep plans rather than change them, Consedine said.
Obama's aides would not speak to the Trib with their names used for this story.
“I'm hearing prices are going up, and benefits are going down,” said Loussedes of the national agents' group.
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Obama's aids would not speak with the Trib (because they wanted to ask some questions), instead the got an email titled "To Team Pravda" and the content goes like this:
Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay...
My, oh my what a wonderful day!
It's the truth, it's actch'll
Ev'rything is satisfactch'll
Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay
Wonderful feeling, wonderful day!
this is the death knell for big government liberalism for a generation
Yes, just like the GOP was eliminated in 2006. :roll: No, liberalism won't be going away. No, we won't be putting gays back in the closet. No, we won't be eliminating the min wage and having children back in factories working. No, we won't be taking blacks and women's right to vote away. Sorry, but liberalism is not going anywhere and neither is conservatism. BOTH are needed in various degrees for a successful society to exist.
As much as I have seen and hated some liberal big government ideas (gun control, New York's insane bans, ACA), I have seen conservatives just as interested in using big government for THEIR needs as well. Morality control with the FCC, flag burning bans, and anti-gay marriage bans.
A defeat for liberalism is putting Gays back in the closet, children back in factories, etc? It seems you aren't to aware of the political history of Black Rights either, or women's rights.National Federation of Republican Women
If that's the left's lopsided idea idea of conservatism then maybe it explains their election of someone like Barrack Obama.
It wasnt real insurnace. but anyway...
It wasnt real insurnace. but anyway...
It wasnt real insurnace. but anyway...
And you are making the mistake of equating Repulbicans with Conservatives and Dems with Liberals. We are talking about liberalism and conservatism not parties. Both parties have switched ideologies before and no ONE party contains ALL conservatives or ALL liberals.
No, they have not switched parties. Do you genuinely believe that that the Democrats of today are 'liberal"? That Barrack Obama is a liberal?
Yes, they have switched parties and no, neither party maintains a monopoly on ideology of conservatism or liberalism. Do you really think it was conservatism that got children out of factories? No, it was liberalism. Do you think it was conservatism that gave blacks and women the right to vote? No, it was liberalism. Now, strict liberalism or conservatism is never a good thing. BOTH have their strong points and weak points.
It was the Republicans who supported Woman's Suffrage, who fought for African Americans while the Democrats now fight for more government control, which is as illiberal, in the traditional sense, as possible, The Republican Party of today, as in the past, is fighting for the freedom of the individual while today's liberal feels that more government equals more personal freedom. It's a modern tragedy.
Sorry, but that simply isn't true. The Republican party is more interested in soving morality anti-gay, anti-choice. Hardly freedo
Sorry, but that is a CONSERVATIVE mentality not a liberal one. Liberalism was going against the norm and giving the women and blacks the right to vote, it was conservatism that fought it. Parties change ideology, not ONE party is the same as when it was founded. That much is true and is in history. However, the concept of liberalism and conservatism remained constant. Only the parties changed.
Yes, just like the GOP was eliminated in 2006. :roll: No, liberalism won't be going away. No, we won't be putting gays back in the closet. No, we won't be eliminating the min wage and having children back in factories working. No, we won't be taking blacks and women's right to vote away. Sorry, but liberalism is not going anywhere and neither is conservatism. BOTH are needed in various degrees for a successful society to exist.
As much as I have seen and hated some liberal big government ideas (gun control, New York's insane bans, ACA), I have seen conservatives just as interested in using big government for THEIR needs as well. Morality control with the FCC, flag burning bans, and anti-gay marriage bans.
Its an interesting subject and one I'd like to discuss further but the mods have put me on notice a couple of time for going off topic.
Libs are necessary to illustrate idiocy. Unfortunately people actually took this joke seriously. Hate to admit it, I did at one time too. Then I grew up.Yes, just like the GOP was eliminated in 2006. :roll: No, liberalism won't be going away. No, we won't be putting gays back in the closet. No, we won't be eliminating the min wage and having children back in factories working. No, we won't be taking blacks and women's right to vote away. Sorry, but liberalism is not going anywhere and neither is conservatism. BOTH are needed in various degrees for a successful society to exist.
As much as I have seen and hated some liberal big government ideas (gun control, New York's insane bans, ACA), I have seen conservatives just as interested in using big government for THEIR needs as well. Morality control with the FCC, flag burning bans, and anti-gay marriage bans.
Libs are necessary to illustrate idiocy. Unfortunately people actually took this joke seriously. Hate to admit it, I did at one time too. Then I grew up.
Yes, the Republican Party is interested in morality and the Democrats less so. That's why the Republicans are always held to higher standards while the standards of the Democrats are unclear. I know of no Republican who is anti Gay, and many do feel that abortion is wrong. The Democrats are pro choice when it comes to abortions but not when it comes to health care or schools.Sorry, but that simply isn't true. The Republican party is more interested in soving morality anti-gay, anti-choice. Hardly freedom.
'Liberals' of today want more government control, not less, and that is hardly a liberal philosophy in the true sense of the word.Sorry, but that is a CONSERVATIVE mentality not a liberal one.
It was religious people who were the forefront of freeing Blacks and outlawing slavery, not the 'liberals' as we know them. In fact liberals of today have legislated the idea that Blacks are inferior to every other race, and are largely anti religion. The only religion they appear to support is Islamism, and that is hardly liberal.Liberalism was going against the norm and giving the women and blacks the right to vote
Conservatives believe in the innate liberty of man and 'to do unto others'. Liberals generally do not.it was conservatism that fought it.
Yes, that's the way the argument goes but it is just as false now as it was 150 years ago.Parties change ideology, not ONE party is the same as when it was founded. That much is true and is in history. However, the concept of liberalism and conservatism remained constant. ONly the parties changed.
I used to be a Lib... then I grew up. You see... I was open minded enough to tune into the opinions of others, from all over the globe. You illustrate that you are closed minded. That's OK... it's nice you revealed the narrowness of your mind. Thanks!Ah yes, more partisan BS from a hack like you. If I wanted your opinion, I would just tune in Rush Limpdick since you parrot his BS and his listeners can't think for themselves either.
I'm happy to say I had an open mind, and still have one. It doesn't mean I have to tolerate stupidity or failure. And I don't.
Yes, the Republican Party is interested in morality and the Democrats less so. That's why the Republicans are always held to higher standards while the standards of the Democrats are unclear. I know of no Republican who is anti Gay, and many do feel that abortion is wrong. The Democrats are pro choice when it comes to abortions but not when it comes to health care or schools.
'Liberals' of today want more government control, not less, and that is hardly a liberal philosophy in the true sense of the word.
It was religious people who were the forefront of freeing Blacks and outlawing slavery, not the 'liberals' as we know them. In fact liberals of today have legislated the idea that Blacks are inferior to every other race, and are largely anti religion. The only religion they appear to support is Islamism, and that is hardly liberal.
Conservatives believe in the innate liberty of man and 'to do unto others'. Liberals generally do not.
Yes, that's the way the argument goes but it is just as false now as it was 150 years ago.
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