Μολὼν λαβέ;1064004360 said:I love it when partisans play the non-partisan role to try to gain an edge in a debate they're losing.
How many Irish immigrants cross the southern border illegally? Unless crossing the border from the east and west coasts have been a problem I'm not aware of. I'm also pretty sure the northern US border hasn't been a hotly debated issue either.
That leaves the southern US border. Pretty sure the Irish would be fairly easy to spot crossing into Texas or Arizona illegally.
See any Irish people in these crowds?
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How much does it cost the govt to not deport someone?
LOL. Now that's just dumb. But that logic, Obamacare wasn't serious legislation because it didn't attract republican votes in either body at the expense of extreme libs. But if you think Obamacare isn't 'serious legislation' I am sure you are in line with those who want to repeal it.The Democratic Senate refused to hear laws passed by the House because they were not serious laws. Serious legislation from the House would have attached Dem votes in the House at the expense of votes of the extreme cons. BTW, educated people know its the Democratic Party.
I love it when closet racists accidentally let their true colors show so this is just a gift that keeps on giving.
I have no idea what the nationality of anyone in the pictures is. Do you have their ID's for me to compare their faces to because they all look like red-blooded Americans to me.
Μολὼν λαβέ;1064004389 said:Deportation costs are much less than providing government assistance/welfare.
The subject is immigration reform, not some 200 plus House bills of dubious quality, especially the 50 plus repeal without promised replace.
Seems the House has a huge problem with keeping their word,
such as when Boehner promised a vote on Rubio's Dream Act and broke his word before the 112-day holiday .
The man that wrote that is a conservative...
Have fun with the hack show!
This is one of the most emotional and passion inducing issues of all.
It doesn't matter what he does or what he says, people are still going to get pissed off.
Maybe it is illegal, maybe it isn't, I don't know, I'm not an expert, but I know at the end of the day this issue is not going away and true leadership isn't coming anytime soon to solve it because nobody likes the only solution available.
Notice how the only people saying this is unconsitutional are hacks like yourselves...So what? Does that make the spin better?
Yes they have. Here our many examples: Critics Say Executive Action on Immigration Would Be Unprecedented. They Forget Their History. - NationalJournal.comI never have fun when people spout spin at me.
For example:
"Some/other/every (take your pick) President(s) have done the same thing."
Not true. Nothing but spin. Sure, President use EO's. No dispute there. But that doesn't mean other Presidents have taken the law into their own hands by using EO's. Nothing in the law says that Obama can change the rules that govern who get's a work permit. Obama IS changing the law. That is illegal.
So...save your spin. Show me the law that says Obama has the right to change the law.
The only solution available?
What he is doing is not only perfectly legal its doing the same exact thing which many many presidents have done.
This is one of the most emotional and passion inducing issues of all.
It doesn't matter what he does or what he says, people are still going to get pissed off.
Maybe it is illegal, maybe it isn't, I don't know, I'm not an expert, but I know at the end of the day this issue is not going away and true leadership isn't coming anytime soon to solve it because nobody likes the only solution available.
AT the end of the day, when you look at the size and scope of the problem, there is no other solution except either a pathway to citizenship or amnesty.
That's it, there is no other solution to the problem.
None at all.
These people aren't going anywhere and you can't deport them all.
I absolutely, 1000% understand why people would be upset by that.
But... there is no other way.
AT the end of the day, when you look at the size and scope of the problem, there is no other solution except either a pathway to citizenship or amnesty.
That's it, there is no other solution to the problem.
None at all.
These people aren't going anywhere and you can't deport them all.
I absolutely, 1000% understand why people would be upset by that.
But... there is no other way.
Your desire for hyperbole makes you horrendously wrong.
At best an argument for "similar" could potentially be made, but absolutely not exact.
Notice how the only people saying this is unconsitutional are hacks like yourselves...
Yes they have. Here our many examples: Critics Say Executive Action on Immigration Would Be Unprecedented. They Forget Their History. - NationalJournal.com
and: 4 times presidents unilaterally protected immigrants from deportations - Vox
No no no no. Lets get this straight. Its only "spin" when you dont agree with it...
Is Obama righting Laws or is he doing the same thing as Bush and Reagan?
I see that the inevitable howling has begun.
Go ahead, Republicans. Please continue to alienate the fastest-growing minority in the nation from your voting base. The 2016 election awaits you.
Notice how the only people saying this is unconsitutional are hacks like yourselves...
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