Obama ups the ante and loses all credibility on bailout boondoggle

[celticlord]

Obama ups the ante and loses all credibility on bailout boondoggle
Pity he can't just talk his way out of the recession. We'd be halfway to prosperity by now.

 

[danarhea]

Obama ups the ante and loses all credibility on bailout boondoggle
Pity he can't just talk his way out of the recession. We'd be halfway to prosperity by now.

Obama only stepped into the shoes Bush provided him, and those shoes were provided to Bush by Clinton. Want to know what the real problem is? Uneducated citizens who buy into the dog and pony show called elections, in which good candidates never make the cut. I hate to disappoint you, but it's nothing more than a beauty contest, where candidates pay nothing more than lip service to the issues, in exchange for becoming president. If Americans were truly educated, none of the 3 would have been president, and none of the opponents of those 3 would ever have been nominated either.

Bottom line? We get the government we deserve, and right now, we deserve every bit of the screwing we are getting.

 

[Renae]

Obama has one plan, it's a plan taht makes Bushes "big Government conservatism" which if you think about that in itself is a conflict in ideals, and is going to show us all what "Progressive Liberalism" is all about. I've provided a helpful picture for you all to explain it.

 

[danarhea]

Obama has one plan, it's a plan taht makes Bushes "big Government conservatism" which if you think about that in itself is a conflict in ideals, and is going to show us all what "Progressive Liberalism" is all about. I've provided a helpful picture for you all to explain it.

We agree. Bushnevism = Obamavism.

 

[Renae]

We agree. Bushnevism = Obamavism.

Bush's problem, and one I think has infected much of the beltway GOP is that they believe they are helping people through the government. Either way, it's not the right answer, but it's a trap, one that happens in any large buracracy like the US Government.

It's also why the Base is torn on Bush, on one hand he's done something right, but he believes in the Government as the solution, not the answer. And that's a naive and dangerous line of thinking.

 

[danarhea]

Bush's problem, and one I think has infected much of the beltway GOP is that they believe they are helping people through the government. Either way, it's not the right answer, but it's a trap, one that happens in any large buracracy like the US Government.

It's also why the Base is torn on Bush, on one hand he's done something right, but he believes in the Government as the solution, not the answer. And that's a naive and dangerous line of thinking.

Like Barry Goldwater used to say, a government powerful enough to give you everything you want is also powerful enough to take away everything you have. BTW, that was originally quoted by Davy Crockett. Some quotes are timeless, and their truth spans many generations.

 

[celticlord]

Bush's problem, and one I think has infected much of the beltway GOP is that they believe they are helping people through the government. Either way, it's not the right answer, but it's a trap, one that happens in any large bureaucracy like the US Government.

It's not just the Beltway and not just the GOP.

There is throughout this country a decided tendency to automatically turn towards government as the solution to all ills, real and imagined. This, of course, a mistake, because government generally is the cause of most social ills. Even the current crop of financial crises are the result of government regulation, and not a lack thereof--it was through government regulation that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were incented to underwrite sub-prime mortgages; it was through government regulation that the so-called "toxic derivatives" were given value as a means for mitigating the default risks of making sub-prime mortgages; it was through government regulation that banks were incented to use their FDIC-backed funds to dabble in Wall Street financial voodoo.

Now, having helped through his brief tenure in the Senate to create this mess, our beloved President-Elect proposes to fix this mess by introducing.....more government regulation. His "stimulus" plan needs to be dismantled and destroyed, and his Presidency rendered impotent; the best he could do for this country would be to spend the next four years in the gym and leave cleaning up the wreckage wrought by government to the grownups.

 

[Kandahar]

Obama only stepped into the shoes Bush provided him, and those shoes were provided to Bush by Clinton. Want to know what the real problem is? Uneducated citizens who buy into the dog and pony show called elections, in which good candidates never make the cut.

:roll:

The reason that Ron Paul didn't make the cut isn't because citizens are uneducated. He didn't make the cut because he's an absolute lunatic.

 

[Renae]

:roll:

The reason that Ron Paul didn't make the cut isn't because citizens are uneducated. He didn't make the cut because he's an absolute lunatic.

Ron Paul has SOMETHINGS right, he really does, however he tends to drift into la la land and that turned off the base. That's the problem for conservatives if you will allow me to use the term, we have no patience as a whole for kooks. You see a lot of fringe liberals (cynthia McKinney for example) whose mirror on the GOP would never make it.

 

[Kandahar]

Ron Paul has SOMETHINGS right, he really does, however he tends to drift into la la land and that turned off the base.

Very few things...a lot of his policies are positively Hooveresque. Slashing the budget during a severe recession? Terrible idea. Returning to the gold standard? So absurd that no one even debates it anymore. Withdrawing from the UN, IMF, World Bank, and all trade agreements, and bringing our troops home from every corner of the earth? Hopelessly impractical.

That's the problem for conservatives if you will allow me to use the term, we have no patience as a whole for kooks. You see a lot of fringe liberals (cynthia McKinney for example) whose mirror on the GOP would never make it.

I would bet that Ron Paul has quite a bit more support among conservatives than Cynthia McKinney has amongst liberals.

 

[Ethereal]

The reason that Ron Paul didn't make the cut isn't because citizens are uneducated. He didn't make the cut because he's an absolute lunatic.

Remember everyone, the majority is always right! Hitler can attest to that!

And don't forget, Barack Obama made the cut because his policies are good and sane, not because he's a pandering snake who promised lazy and resentful idiots that the government will solve all of their problems for them...no, that's not it at all.