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Which proved you wrong. Sorry I took so long getting back but I had myself a nice warm slice of cinnamon pie.
Here is the recipe
Ingredients
Pastry
2 cups Gold Medal™ all-purpose flour
1 teaspoon salt
2/3 cup plus 2 tablespoons shortening
4 to 6 tablespoons cold water
Filling
1/3 to 1/2 cup sugar
1/4 cup Gold Medal™ all-purpose flour
1/2 teaspoon ground cinnamon
1/2 teaspoon ground nutmeg
1/8 teaspoon salt
8 cups thinly sliced peeled tart apples (8 medium)
2 tablespoons butter or margarine
NIMBY;1064218000]How much of that added debt was due to interest on the previous total accumulated debt?
Why did the GOP and TEA party walk away from Sen. Coburn's Back-in-Black plan, not to mention sabotaging the Grand Bargain?
I'm sure you agree we'd have a balanced budget by now without those 2 GOP/TEAs holding Boehner back.
How does that number compare to the highest level of unemployment, at 10.4%
Which the GOP is now taking credit for.
A direct effect from your party's Great recession.
Still the lame Gruber insult.
Until a GOP is President with the same or lower numbers .
But....the fact is.....Con is wrong, GDP gain was not "mostly govt spending"..whether or not you believe the graph showed it or not (and it did, gdp gains happened in spite of flattening govt spending).
Move on, your "point" is lost.
So now I'm a Socialist and a Liberal.
I have to get ready to coach a wrestling meet this evening--a most conservative community of coaches and parents.
Think Congressman Jim Jordan of Ohio.
I'll catch up with you later after the SOTU and the GOP spinsters .
As soon as all folks are required to do as you are advising me to do, I'm game.
And just know that I'm for means-testing of all public pensions, not a very popular position in my circles.
Again, until all one million retirees in Illinois don't get COLA for a few years, we don't save billions which are being cut from education right now.
Why are you against closing tax loopholes for yourself, the rich ?
But....the fact is.....Con is wrong, GDP gain was not "mostly govt spending"..whether or not you believe the graph showed it or not (and it did, gdp gains happened in spite of flattening govt spending).
Move on, your "point" is lost.
Japan’s 2-Decade Experiment with Fiscal Austerity
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Fiscal austerity did not begin immediately, but “Japan’s experiment with Keynesian-style public works programmes” ended in 1997. The public works programs did not promote a significant recovery, but in the six years from 1992 to 1997, real GDP at least managed to grow at a feeble 1.3% annual rate. But in the two years after austerity began — public works spending being cut back and the consumption tax raised, real GDP fell by 2.1% (1998) and 0.1% (1999). Despite fiscal austerity after 1997, the budgetary situation steadily deteriorated, government outlays rising as percentage of GDP while tax revenues are 5% lower as a percentage of GDP than in 1988 when the consumption tax was introduced.
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LOL !!
10 separate stimulus packages equating to 100 Trillion dollars in Stimulus is austerity ?
Their 3 following stimulus packages plus massive monetary stimulus equates to " austerity " ?
The have a debt to GDP ratio of over 200 percent.
WHAT AUSTERITY ??
LMAO, 100 Trillion????
A tax increase on the wealthy is going to hurt everybody, but there are so many who buy into this class warfare. This is what the Marxists started in Russia to rid the country of the Czars. Obama says the tax increase is helping the middle class. That is an oxymoron because in Marxist terms, the term for middle class was bourgeoisie, which stood for the capitalist class, those individuals, who had the money and the means of production. Obama says he wants only to tax the wealthy, but he is also attacking the middle class. Don't believe a word that Obama reads from his teleprompter.
You said 100 Trillion Dollars.Yes, is that # too large for you to comprehend ?
100 Trillion Yen through 10 different Stimulus packages in the 90s
You Libs calm that " austerity ".....Lol !!
You said 100 Trillion Dollars.
Yes, because we all know the Japanese use the dollar and not their own sovereign currency.....
lol @ blaming him for your screwup
A tax increase on the wealthy is going to hurt everybody, but there are so many who buy into this class warfare. This is what the Marxists started in Russia to rid the country of the Czars. Obama says the tax increase is helping the middle class. That is an oxymoron because in Marxist terms, the term for middle class was bourgeoisie, which stood for the capitalist class, those individuals, who had the money and the means of production. Obama says he wants only to tax the wealthy, but he is also attacking the middle class. Don't believe a word that Obama reads from his teleprompter.
Actually it is the middle class tax cuts that will help the middle class. The tax increases are to pay for them. I guess it is a foreign language to you but some actually think you need to pay for what you spend. We are sorry that we gave the wealthy too many breaks that now need to be re-evaluated. We led you on and for that we are sorry but some of them need to go back. Capital gains need to go back to what Ronald Reagan proposed...I know...the horror.
Why? because I don't believe that any dollars should go to the Federal Govt. until they clean up their mess and stop lying to the American people. I am for all Americans keeping more of what they earn thus needing less govt. Why do you have a problem with that?
I think the problem is that you are too self-serving to be a creditable debater especially when you claim to be well-off. The Govt. has'nt prevented you from becoming wealthy has it? Have you even thought of the possibility that your fictional "less Govt." might have?
Both, that one....and the one I posted, show clearly the con got it wrong.I am discussing the use of a pointless graph, I'm not taking a stand. If that graph is what you are going by then you aren't making your point.
I did......and this is another thing you can't get correct today.Why don't you post the GDP numbers by component showing the growth. Cannot wait to see you prove me wrong. BEA.gov. has the data
I did......and this is another thing you can't get correct today.
It is not just semantics . Being required to file a report and being required to pay a tax are two very different things not just different words.
A "death tax" implies that the state taxes dying, it does not and never has.
The tax is paid by those receiving an unearned income in the form of an inheritance, just like winning the lottery is taxed as unearned income.
Calling inheritance tax a "death tax" is not only dishonest it is misleading and inaccurate.
If you don't like inheritance taxes, you can say so without lying.
For some reason you can't bring yourself to do that.
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