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"Community/environment" doesn't speak just to government.
What are you even talkimg about? This makes no aense...lol!
That's because you're a Conservative.
Conservatives don't understand economics. That's why they have to depend on the government to survive and also blame the government whenever their businesses fail.
Oh, is that it?...lol!
You wouldn't have had any business at all ever if it weren't for the government interfering in the market to shield offshore drillers from spill liability.
So thank the government for your livelihood, and quit complaining.
Absolutely.
The day there's a conservative who doesn't blame the government for his job woes and/or depend on the government is the day the temperature of Hell reaches 32 F or John Boehner has an erection (intellectually or physically).
This was very unlibertarian of you. We don't thank the government for our livelihoods.
Clearly you don't know what you are talking about. I don't receive one iota of assistance from the government
without that shield, there would be no offshore drilling at all, and hence, no need for anyone like apdst to service the rigs.
In a Libertarian system, there would be no government shielding anyone from liability
since there would be no offshore drilling in such a system
Businesses like his can only survive in a non-free market system where government steps in to shield firms from liability.
You do. Who do you think made the laws that force taxpayers to pick up the tab for oil spills? It was the federal government. If it weren't for that piece of (stupid) regulation, you would have nothing.
Without government intervention there would have never been a ban on offshore drilling.
What? My business is healthcare. The government assisting in a natural disaster has never occurred in my area and has never affected my business. I, truly, do not see your point. Nor do I understand WHAT you are talking about.
Nobody built my business for me. I'm the one that borrowed the money. I'm the one that paid the taxes. I pay the note. It was my ass if it flopped. I don't recall a single person saying, "hey dude, don't worry. If your business flops, I'm going to be right their with you". Not my customers, the government, nobody.
Obama's comments take away personal accomplishment and a sense of self worth for every ambitious person in this country. Pissin' on our parade, as the saying goes.
Some private construction companies? Where did the money come from? Without the private sector, neither of those projects would have existed.
What is the name of the sels sufficient, self sustaining independent island nation you created, live on and built all by yourself?
Ok apdst. Tell him the name of your business. LOL.
Without the "private sector," there is no government. There's no money for Hoover Dam and the TVA. Perhaps he should do a speech about that. Ha!
The taxpayer. Stupid question.
And again, that's your objective reasoning placing importance onto one portion and devaluing the other. That's fine to do, but it's also no different than what Obama is doing. You make the argument that without that "special" something in her first, the community wouldn't have mattered. Someone could turn right back around and say that she could have all the "special" in her she wanted....if the drugstore guy wouldn't hire her, if the school didn't have teachers that facilitated her education, if that college didn't deem it worth while to have night classes, if the places she worked full time didn't hire her, if the USPS wasn't an entity to work for, if she didn't likely have the family and friends that undoubtably must've helped her in some fashion while being "off her feet", if she didn't have her friend to start the accounting business with, etc etc etc...then that "special" in her would've been for naught or at least for less.
Again, there's nothing wrong with you valuing one side more and feeling that it means more and devaluing the other side. But excuse me if I don't buy individuals on either side getting so high and mighty as to believe that their opinion on it is some absolute truth regarding it because everything they use to argue is entirely subjective and guessing based.
I personally am one of those people that tends to value the individual more than the community and place a larger amount of the burden/praise on that. However, I recognize that it's my subjective opinion and not some universal truth.
Sounds like she pulled herself up by her bootstraps, which is great. But of course, the system helps with that. Perhaps she attended a community college for a few years, which makes things much cheaper. Or maybe she received some sort of government subsidy.
Either way, she navigated the system effectively and improved her life. I think what Obama and liberals want to do is to make it easier - or accessible - for people like her. The idea that any person is successful all on his/her own is ridiculous.
I do not remember anyone taking issue with the need for a private sector.
Who ever said businesses would do it themselves? You are putting forth the classic moving of the goal posts. The point is without all the businesses, the government wouldn't have the money to spend on good things it should do, or to waste on all the stuff it wastes on. Government exists because of business, not the inverse.
Have you ever tried to start your own business?
Certainly doesn't sound like it
Actually you provided a stupid answer.
And they all just showed up one day with their materials and did it right?
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