Bobcat
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Not sure why you think your question means they can be dishonest about what he said. He merely points out that we accomplish a lot by working together. This isn't all that controversial. But, like happens too often, instead of addressing what he actually said, partisans go off into silly land and embrace the lie. There is a prevasive thought out that government doesn't work, and yet much of what it does, business and most everyone else depends on. Roads and bridges are a good example. SO, a poltiican addressing that is not something that is extreme.
Obama and the Democrats tried to get tax-cuts for businesses to hire more workers, and the GOP said "no".
Not sure why you think your question means they can be dishonest about what he said. He merely points out that we accomplish a lot by working together. This isn't all that controversial. But, like happens too often, instead of addressing what he actually said, partisans go off into silly land and embrace the lie. There is a prevasive thought out that government doesn't work, and yet much of what it does, business and most everyone else depends on. Roads and bridges are a good example. SO, a poltiican addressing that is not something that is extreme.
They aren't being dishonest about what he said. Exagerating it a bit, maybe, but he said what he said.
So, we KNOW that govt plays a role in business. President Obama didn't point out anything that isn't known (other than his disdain for private sector success) and he wasn't proposing any change. Why bring it up at all, then?
Please, you're only fooling yourself. Senate Republicans said "no" to raising taxes on small businesses.
Who's zoomin' who? GOP Blocks Senate Small-Business Tax Cut Bill : Roll Call News
In an announcement that seemed to surprise Democrats, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., said on the Senate floor that he was accepting a Democratic offer to hold back-to-back roll calls on both parties' bills, with each measure requiring just a simple majority for passage.
The new plan puts pressure on Democrats to avoid an embarrassing defeat of their own tax cut plan, which closely resembles proposals by President Barack Obama to extend tax cuts for all but the nation's highest earners. Republicans want the high earners to keep their tax cuts, too.
Yes, they are being dishonest. And I've linked how.
And distain is your interpretation, not reality.
As his opponents demonize use of government, that is plenty of reason to try and discuss it honestly. We don't do dicussing honestly well and this country, which is why so many lies dominate. I say shame on us.
Old news, Republicans came back to the table and are holding back to back roll calls on the opposing bills. The ball is now in the Dem's court. The Democrat's bill will fail not because of a republican filibuster, but because moderate dems won't support their own bill.
Senate ready for symbolic showdown on tax cuts
Published July 25, 2012
Obama and the Democrats tried to get tax-cuts for businesses to hire more workers, and the GOP said "no".
Oh, so now it's Democrats who are the party of tax cuts?...
Yes, they are being dishonest. And I've linked how.
And distain is your interpretation, not reality. As his opponents demonize use of government, that is plenty of reason to try and discuss it honestly. We don't do dicussing honestly well and this country, which is why so many lies dominate. I say shame on us.
the GOP didn't allow tax-breaks for businesses to hire more people.
Is that right?....
...The GOP filibustered the small business tax cuts, which is separate from the bills referenced in your quote.....
Oh I see....and I suppose THE SENATE has enough republican votes to kill the bill right? Like I said, the day you start thinking things through, is the day I'll probably stroke out.....
The vote was 53-44, seven short of the 60 votes required to overcome GOP procedural hurdles.
You must have seen this sentence since the one you C&P'd came just after it
which shows just how much they value tax cuts for job-creators.
You must have seen this sentence since the one you C&P'd came just after it
REpublicans. They want to extend tax cuts for ALL, Dems just wanna extend them for a select few.
It would be the same if I said that in 2005, Democrats voted unanimously against a bill that would of funded more bullett proof vests for our troops in Iraq. It would be true. But would it be true to say that's the reason they voted against the bill?
This may be a bad example, because I wouldn't put that past liberals either. But the fact is, they opposed the bill because of other reasons, not because of the bullett proof vests.
Same applies here. The Republicans had just had a bill defeated that would of cut taxes on businesses with 500 or fewer employees. You're being dishonest, along with Thunder. Republicans weren't filibustering over tax cuts, but all the other crap Dems tried to pile in the bill. So save your lies for someone who will fall for your them.
Oh I see....and I suppose THE SENATE has enough republican votes to kill the bill right? Like I said, the day you start thinking things through, is the day I'll probably stroke out.....
They fillibustered because of the strings attached to the bill Thunder....
...You're being dishonest, along with Thunder....
What you linked to is an interpretation just like any other. Everyone hears what they hear filtered through their own bias. If you view the speach, you can see exactly what he meant when he said the words.
My interpretation is my reality. Just as yours is yours.
Actually, it's plainly an attempt to diminish the impact of Romney's success. There is no other reason to bring up something so plainly obvious..and get carried away doing it.
It's clear he feels that any individual's success in business is "no big deal" thanks to the helping hand of government. I mean, since the govt is there to help, anyone can do it, right?
What's in your wallet?
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