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Am I the only one who wants to wait until Biden and the White House say something about what these new policies are or may be before freaking out?
What rational person needs a car that goes 200 mph, Ferraris should be banned. As long as you follow the law, you should not be punished for your possessions.
Since everyone who commits mass murder is crazy, lets just lock up everyone with a mental illness. We all know someone who is a bit off, the public needs to be protected from these people.
I sometimes hate the place that logic takes us.
I hate the place your logic takes us to also!
I'm getting real tired of people's feeble attempts comparing a car that is needed for for transportation, to the weapon of choice with gangs in the US and Mexico.
Just wanted you to know how stupid that comparison sounds to those without your unique insight.
I hate the place your logic takes us to also!
I'm getting real tired of people's feeble attempts comparing a car that is needed for for transportation, to the weapon of choice with gangs in the US and Mexico.
Just wanted you to know how stupid that comparison sounds to those without your unique insight.
Μολὼν λαβέ;1061269667 said:The liberal zealots scoffed at the idea that Obama would attempt to implement any form of gun control during his second term in office. They also disparaged those who disagreed with them. The funny yet sad thing is they believed each other. :notlook:
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"New policies to curb gun violence in wake of shooting." Sounds to me that it could include mental health, because it is a mental health problem. You're just trying to sound like a Republican and imply that Obama has been trying to take away our guns. Quite a stretch, don't you think? It is a mental health issue and my guess is it will be a mental health solution, plus ending 100 round clips, assault weapons, and perhaps another rational option.
I would say the liberal zealots were very upfront about wanting 'gun control'. Moderates didn't think President Obama would unilaterally announce sweeping restrictions. However a series of rather outrageous mass murders has pushed many citizens to deciding something must be done.
What restrictions that may or may not be finally adopted are still very much in the wind. Reduce the number of rounds in the mag? that means returning to the restrictions BushII announced during his term. A list of weapons that can not longer be imported? Again that sounds like it has been done before by a Bush.
Course the right wing will scream- SEE SEE he wants our guns n our Bibles!
Lets hope rational folks on all sides of this issue can come together and work on more than stirring anger, fear and resentment.
There is no such thing as an "Assault Weapon". Any weapon can be classified as an "Assault Weapon" like knives and bats.
There are automatic and semi automatic guns.
Yeah Obama wants to keep guns out of the hands of criminals. But what Obama doesn't know is that all these mass murders were not committed by people with felony convictions. They were committed by nut cases, crazy people with screws loose.
I would say the liberal zealots were very upfront about wanting 'gun control'. Moderates didn't think President Obama would unilaterally announce sweeping restrictions. However a series of rather outrageous mass murders has pushed many citizens to deciding something must be done.
What restrictions that may or may not be finally adopted are still very much in the wind. Reduce the number of rounds in the mag? that means returning to the restrictions BushII announced during his term. A list of weapons that can not longer be imported? Again that sounds like it has been done before by a Bush.
Course the right wing will scream- SEE SEE he wants our guns n our Bibles!
Lets hope rational folks on all sides of this issue can come together and work on more than stirring anger, fear and resentment.
there is nothing rational about restricting the rights of honest people in reaction to a guy who killed a lawful owner to get her gunsAnd just like you are not advocating unlimited ownership, nobody is advocating zero ownership. But somehow, the nutjob right-wing is simply incapable of having a discussion somewhere in the middle of those two things. To them, "maybe we should have better background checks" translates into "OBUMMER GONNA TAKE ALL MY GUNS." Idiots in Congress? Why should we expect them to have a rational discussion when we can't even do it ourselves?
Except, you know, the legally purchased firearms that committed the recent massacre.
Guns are needed for self defense, I can't help it if some people use them for illegal purposes. If you take my self defense weapon the bad guys will be the only armed guys.
Just because you want it to be stupid doesnt make it stupid. A whole room full of people would seem to disagree with you except 1.I hate the place your logic takes us to also!
I'm getting real tired of people's feeble attempts comparing a car that is needed for for transportation, to the weapon of choice with gangs in the US and Mexico.
Just wanted you to know how stupid that comparison sounds to those without your unique insight.
there is no rational reason for magazine limitations other than to incrementally get rid of semi auto weapons
Rational reasons don't seem rational to the extremists, no matter the side. Back when I joined the infantry everyone to include our automatic riflemen (ARs we called them) were issued 20 (18) round mags. Now everyone carries 30 round mags even the REMFs (not to mention the never beens)
30 round mags don't make you freer and 20 round mags don't lead to enslavement.
You are not rational
Any Collectivist Authoritarian who is gleeful about taking away my 2nd Amendment Rights, which was STATED in the Constitution, not granted by Government, by his very nature is irrational.
Gun Control legislation didn't work before. It won't work now. You know what they say about the definition of mental illness. Trying the same thing over and over expecting different results and all that ... :2wave:
Apparently his mother made the legal purchase. She and 25 innocent people are dead today because of her legal purchase. Twenty of them never made it past the age of 7.that is dishonest-you are trying to make it sound as if the killer obtained the firearms through legal purchase
Apparently his mother made the legal purchase. She and 25 innocent people are dead today because of her legal purchase. Twenty of them never made it past the age of 7.
Apparently his mother made the legal purchase. She and 25 innocent people are dead today because of her legal purchase. Twenty of them never made it past the age of 7.
You don't need assault type weapons for self defense, the gun fanatics have maintained for years the only difference is cosmetic. So it will be no hardship on the gun fanatics.
So legal purchase of firearms by people who's children MIGHT shoot children should be illegal.
Care to explain how such a rule would be achieved and enforced?
the standard issue for the AK is 30 rounds, same with my favorite-the steyr AUG (except for shooting prone)
and banning 30 or 20 is not rational
and the Progressives want to limit us (today) to ten rounds
and yes the 30 round Pmags are just as reliable as the old 20 round subcontractor reynolds aluminum jobs you had. I do have a few 20 round AK mags for shooting off a bench. but 99% of the AK mags are 30
same with the Valmet and the Israeli "AK" Galil is a 35 rounder
To some extent, you are correct. A lot of liberals, and even some centrists, want us to be more like Europe, where, for the most part, gun ownership is illegal.the obvious conclusion one has to draw from PB's idiotic blathering is that we have to ban all private weapons ownership because a deranged killer might kill the owner and then steal the guns. that is what people like PB want all along-a complete ban on legal gun ownership because PB wants the state and criminals to have a complete monopoly on firepower
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