All taxes are "use" taxes (with the exception of the HCR fine). The only difference between a federal tax and a tax on a product is what is being used.
a bit simplistic. In nature, the untalented and the unproductive starve. The most industrious and most shrewd propser in just about any system. Seems like the poor and untalented have a pretty good deal. Society caters to the least able
I think you'd be mistaken that this was a referendum against the President. I'd say it was more an issue of balancing the power of government. Happens every midterm election cycle. Prior to 2006 we had a Republican President and a Republican Congress. The People didn't like that one side had too much control over the government and as a result they elected a Democrat President (given the other choice(s), I can't say I blame them) and a majority Democrat Congress. Four years later, they reversed it. I wouldn't be surprised if the situation changes course again in 2012. However, if Congress remains majority Republican and the state of the nation shows marked improvements, we might see most parties currently in government get re-elected including the President. Stay tuned...
But I digress...this isn't about the upcoming 2012 election cycle. So, let's try NOT to re-direct the conversation again, shall we? This is about the effectiveness of the Bush tax cuts and/or the concept of "trickle-down economics" overall. So, my question to you is:
It's a simple question...yes or no?
I have no idea how it works? You tell me since you made the claim. It is not my job to educate you when you make an allegation. It is your job to support it if challenged.
this was your statement
So again please, tell me how this government guaranty of equal opportunity works in real life.
Good lord man. I taught the basic civics course for 33 years. If you want to know about the three levels of government and the three branches of government and what their functions are I strongly advise you to purchase a basic US Government text book and begin reading now. I used several in my time but my favorite was AMERICAN GOVERNMENT: Principles and Practices by Turner, Switzer & Redden. It was published by Merrill.
Amazon.com: American Government: Principles and Practice (9780028238968): Mary Jane Turner, Kenneth Switzer, Charlotte Redden: Books
This is the latest edition. The one I used had an additional 100 pages so I cannot say if it is improved or lessened. But it was first rate in every way possible and one of the best textbooks I every used or saw.
All your questions will be answered in there.
Equal opportunity is guaranteed by the Constitution for ALL Americans. anyone discriminated against will become very wealthy through the courts. I would have thought a civics teacher would have understood the Constitution
Can you quote me the Constitutional language on that please? It does not seem to be in my copy. But then, we were a poor school district so perhaps we only got partial copies.
Equal rights are guaranteed by the Constitution and you can go to the EEOC to read about equal opportunity. I am sure that all school districts covered the role of the Federal govt. if they had a civics class.
Equal opportunity is guaranteed by the Constitution for ALL Americans. anyone discriminated against will become very wealthy through the courts. I would have thought a civics teacher would have understood the Constitution
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You are moving the goal posts and changing your boast.
Again, here is what you wrote
Where in the Constitution is this language? I cannot find it. The EEOC is not part of the language of the Constitution.
Again, so how does this work again? Here is the opportunity for you to show the Government teacher just how much more you know.
My next response will be to yours or anyone that addresses the thread topic. The topic of equal rights is in the Constitution and if you have a problem with it and don't believe in equal opportunity then that is a savings to the taxpayer as we can now eliminate the Equal Opportunity Commission. Guess that wasn't established because of the Constitutional requirements of equal rights.
I am still waiting for you to explain why Obama ran three years against the Bush tax cuts, claimed they all went to the rich, and now signed an extention claiming that it was good for ALL Americans meaning that the middle class did indeed get a tax cut.
“I’m not willing to let working families across this country become collateral damage for political warfare here in Washington,” Obama said in a statement. “Sympathetic as I am to those who prefer a fight over compromise, as much as the political wisdom may dictate fighting over solving problems, it would be the wrong thing to do.”
Obama said he made the compromise to break the stalemate over taxes to ensure rates don’t rise for middle-income Americans when the current ones, enacted in 2001 and 2003, expire on Dec. 31. He said that while he still believes the nation can’t afford to permanently extend the reduced top tax rates, raising taxes for the rest of taxpayers would damage the fragile economic recovery.
Without the deal, middle-income families would become “collateral damage for political warfare here in Washington,” Obama said in televised remarks yesterday. He criticized Republicans for insisting on permanent tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans “regardless of the cost of impact on the deficit.”
The supposed guaranty of equal opportunity is NOT in my copy of the Constitution. I cannot find it anywhere. Please be good enough to back up the claim with the actual part of the Constitution with this language.
And I already answered your question very early in the game. Yes, Obama ran saying we should not give the rich any more tax cuts. And yes he signed an extension of them. And he clearly said he thought they were a bad idea but he had no choice but to take them as a part of a larger package which he thought was good on balance. He was taking a rather mature and statesman approach and compromising.
What is your problem in understanding that?
and more for you
Obama Confronts Resistence From Democrats Over Deal to Adopt Bush Tax Cuts - Bloomberg
Bush lost the 2006 midterms because of Iraq, not the economy. here are the economic results. The economy went south in 2008 with Democrats in control of the legislation. So yes, the Bush tax cuts worked until the financial meltdown.
BEA links GDP and Receipts/Expense
U.S. Department of Commerce. Bureau of Economic Analysis
GDP by year
2000 9951.50
2001 10286.20
2002 10642.30
2003 11142.10
2004 11867.80
2005 12638.40
2006 13398.90
2007 14077.60
2008 14441.40
2009 14256.30
As for the 2010 elections, you continue to be in denial and obviously haven't paid any attention to the exit polls.
GDP figures are great! Shows the country actually did make money by selling more products or providing more services from one year to the next. But that DOES NOT show that individual income for wage earners increased from year to year. So, if you can provide statistics on that from 2001-2008 I'd be interested. Otherwise, all you've really shown is we sold more durable goods from year-to-year and that could simply mean the U.S sold more fighter planes or commercial aircraft. Granted, I'm being sarcastic; it would require the sale of alot of aircraft to move the numbers, but my point is you really haven't proven anything concrete here.
By the way, Equal rights guarantee equal opportunity.
What tax cut for the middle class? Thought the Bush tax cuts only benefited the rich? Seems like you have a very short memory.
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Changing the claim again are we. Sorry but this is not some algebraic formula where A = B.
Allow me to quote from a truly great film - THE DEERHUNTER.
"This is this. This isn't something else. This is this."
So where in the Constitution is a guaranty of equal opportunity. Its not in my copy.
I urge you to look up the provisions of the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts since you seem unaware of their exact language. Either that or you are playing some sort of game here and I do not get it at all since you are not being clear.
Conservative
So I take it you surrender on your claim that the Constitution guarantees equal opportunity to all Americans?
You can take it any way you want but equal rights means equal opportunity. Take the issue up with the EEOC.
The EEOC does not post here. You do.
The EEOC does not make boasts and claims here that it cannot back up. You do.
The EEOC does not tell us that this is really something else even though it is not. You do.
But by all means, you shovel has some miles left in it so keep on digging.
We all make mistakes, myself included. Its no big deal top admit one.
Equal rights=equal opportunity, sorry
It is not the same thing at all. The Constitution DOES NOT guaranty anyone equal opportunity. It is nowhere in there at all.
As for your argument on the tax cuts, the law did not change over the last seven to nine years. They were what they were. Middle class people got a small cut and richer people got a much larger tax savings. Is this in dispute.
Has Obama said otherwise?
What part of the Bush tax cuts do you not understand?
Need someone to exlain them to you?
Bush Tax cuts
Between 2001 and 2003, the Bush administration instituted a federal tax cut for all taxpayers. Among other changes, the lowest income tax rate was lowered from 15% to 10%, the 27% rate went to 25%, the 30% rate went to 28%, the 35% rate went to 33%, and the top marginal tax rate went from 39.6% to 35%.[3] In addition, the child tax credit went from $500 to $1000, and the "marriage penalty" was reduced. Since the cuts were implemented as part of the annual congressional budget resolution, which protected the bill from filibusters, numerous amendments, and more than 20 hours of debate, it had to include a sunset clause. Unless congress passes legislation making the tax cuts permanent, they will expire in 2011.
Equal rights=Equal Opportunity.
the looters think they do us a service by existing and demanding we pay more taxes.
Right, I think that is the general attitude. It's great that the cuts were extended but we just extended more pant****ting for another 13 months in regards to unemployment. Sorry to sound harsh to all who are making an effort out there, but the government nipple will never solve anything. Never has, and never will. Just leads to more corruption and pandering asshole politicians who can justify their existence with their B'**** programs. Let's cut more taxes and get this nation back to F'ing work...Maybe, just maybe the government could learn how to cut back for once, like we have to do everyday. O.k. continue, just needed to rant for a tad....
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