What she's expressing is clear and obvious racism. And what you're doing is serving as an apologist for it. You're justifying it. I lived through the 60's and I can tell you this is every bit as bad if not worse. At that time we didn't have laws in place. Today we do but the messaging is more subtle. The Dog Whistles are obvious. And so is the racism. Having a Black President has brought it up to the surface. It's always been there.
In other words, you've got nothing but rage. A blog is not proof. All these are is accusations of "liberal plants" but no proof of any of it.
From your last source:
Where's the proof that this person is a "leftist infiltrator?" They offer none, just an accusation presented as fact.
So prove -- I mean PROOF -- not a blog. PROVE that the person in question is a "leftist infiltrator." Presenting accusations as fact don't hold up in court, and they don't hold up here.
Ohh i get it because it wasnt reported by huff and puff post, buzz feed or mother jones it is true
That's a stupid comment. This isn't the law of the jungle. Maybe you prefer that. If so, you're in the wrong country,.
I'll put it in historical layman context, if Obama were a little older and were have been a butter bar (2nd. Lt.) in command of a rifle platoon in Vietnam, he probably would have been fragged by his own troops.
When the American people go to the polls when they vote for someone to be POTUS they should remember they are also picking who will be the Commander and Chief of our military services.
Well, let's not say the entire TP is racist. But it's silly to deny that there are racists who are part of it. The ones focusing on Obama being "47% negro" for instance.
So what if he is? Maybe someone is interested in his lineage? It interests me to know his percentages even though I dont think of myself as racist or bigoted.
If that's the focus of your protest.....
Being curious is one thing. Saying "I want the negro out of office" is something else altogether.
Funny video about perceptions:
Racism rears its ugly head once more on this forum. Your views disqualify you as a serious poster here. Your ignorance precedes any comment you might make.
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Woah woah woah
Settle down there sparky.
I agree with you that most of Arizona' politics are absolute trash but to compare Az to Nazi Germany is uncalled for. The biggest reason being there is currently no genocide taking place in my state. Further those of us who don't agree with the state of things here are not just "going with it". We try our best to change things and in many cities like Flagstaff Tucson Bisbee things are pretty good. I might add Sedona but well they are a whole different kinda of crazy there.
And how is that relevant to anything? Does that make him less a human being in your view?
Why would it matter? Do you need some context to recognize racism when you see it? Under what context would that kind of speech appeal to your better instincts? The hypocrisy here is yours. Being an apologist for racists and then attempting to deflect it on the grounds of "context" is transparent. Why on earth would you look to justify something like this unless you are sympathetic to those views?
Before I waste my time with anymore of a response may I ask sawdust what your expertise in the subject of renewable energy is?
In the interest of fairness, I am Biosystems engineer specializing in sustainable energy and resource management. I also work in conjunction with a local university that receives most of its funding from Uncle Tom.
You do realize you just gave a very good reason to disarm Marines when Obama is around don't you? You also misrepresented the story in the Times claiming Obama ordered a court marshal and you never acknowledged your error. I'm sorry, but your posts are sometimes . . . very comical.
Re: Obama ordered the court martial, it came from higher up than the Commandant. Anyone above the Commandant would be the Obama administration. It was probably Valerie Jarrett's doing. With the current administration, they don't recognise or follow the established military chain of command.
Obama has a serious problems as Commander and Chief of our military services and Obama knows it. He hasn't earned the respect of those serving in the military and he probably could care less because he doesn't respect the majority who serve in our military services today.
Obama has on numerous times has publicly said he plans to change the face of the military. He rejects the culture, traditions and customs of our military service. He doesn't like who is serving in our military today.
Obama has politicized the Department of Defense which is the civilian part of the military and is in the process of politicizing the uniform part of the military by lowering the standards for the Officers Corps, requiring the indoctrination of the troops in political correctness. He is in the process of dumbing down the physical standards of our military. And is using the military for social engineering experimentation which history has shown always result in soldiers, Marines, sailors and airmen bleeding and dieing on the battlefield and even during training.
Instead of earning the respect of the military Obama uses threats of court martials, relieving commanders of their commands and ending their military careers. No different than the incompetent platoon sergeant who has no leadership capabilities and hasn't earned the respect of the men in his platoon and uses the threat of physical force to lead.
Disarming Marines who are six or ten miles away from where Obama will be is no way to earn the respect of the Marines. If Obama doesn't trust them, how can they trust him ?
You may remember the incident when Leon Panetta became Secretary of Defense and visited a base in Afghanistan and all of the soldiers were disarmed in a combat zone. This is the way the Obama administration operates. A bunch of paranoid libs. They are scared of anyone who's not a liberal, progressive or socialist. There is no such thing as just an American in their thinking. Everyone is a hyphenated-American and are categorized into groups. You have to divide to accomplish your political agenda.
ERRRR . . . AHHHHHH . . . . UMMMMMM . . . well I guess that makes it all OK then to misquote a source and complain about disarming Marines on one hand, while espousing the virtues of fragging in the other. And it's your politicization of everything that makes your posts comically entertaining rather than informing.
You okay with that Black Sheep bit? How about the half-white Muslim bit, that okay with you?
You ok with the white Hispanic George Zimmerman? What's good for the goose... As a white man myself, I prefer the president stay all black, but that's just me.
Tim-
I don't wish to be rude, but I have no idea what you just said.
Well America hasn't been this much divided since pre Civil War 1800's. But I doubt it has that much to do with liberals always playing the race card. More to do with Obama's socialist agenda of dividing America.
You should have heard the thousands of Marines earlier today at Pendleton that were bitching and complaining that they had to turn their rifles into the armory because Obama wanted to visit the Marines and tell them how great social engineering has been for the military.
Every time Obama sets foot on Camp Pendleton it becomes a gun free Camp Pendleton. That never happened beforer with any other Commander and Chief. It's as if Obama doesn't trust those who serve under his command.
Did not the IRS target the TEA Party ?
Did not the Department of Defense target the "Armed Forces Tea Party" ?
It was the Department of Defense that ordered the Marine Corps to investigate Sergant Gary Stein, a member of the "Armed Forces Tea Party."
It was President Obama's administration who ordered the investigation.
GOP Rep. Hunter wants Marine Corps to drop dismissal of anti-Obama sergeant - The Hill's DEFCON Hill
>"The Marine Corps Times is reporting that Barack Obama has more than one sergeant who is critical of his performance as commander-in-chief.
The report from the Marine newspaper comes just as the corps is trying to dismiss Sgt. Gary Stein for making unflattering comments about Obama on a personal Facebook page.
It was in a March 26 article called "Anti-Obama Marines that the paper reported, "Stein is not alone in his disdain for the president. Published in early March, the most recent Military Times survey of active-duty service members shows the lowest approval ratings for Obama's job as commander in chief since he took office in 2009: 25 percent, down from 35 after Obama's first year on the job. And rank-and-file Marines are hearing considerably more AntiObama talk on the job than they noticed in the past."..."<
>"Lt. Col. John Eidsmoe, a retired Air Force officer who works for former Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore at the Foundation for Moral Law, said, "It is obvious that someone higher up wants to bring the military into line."
The statement echoes that of Stein's attorney Gary Kreep with the United States Justice Foundation.
"I don't think the Marine Corps has any intention of treating him fairly in any appeal," he said. "It's my opinion, but I believe Obama sent orders down from above to get rid of this guy."..."<
>"...discipline is a vital part of military culture, another key part is for leaders to not surround themselves with "yes men," noting that Obama does not respond well to any criticism.
"We have to have discipline, but in our officer training we say 'you want a subordinate officer who will tell you the truth, not what you want to hear.' We don't have that kind of commander-in-chief now." "<
Obama gets low marks in marine survey-- G. Edwin Lint
Bush's men in black sunglasses have made marines remove their bolt carrier groups, essentially rendering their weapons useless for anything other than photo ops. This was done on a Thanksgiving dinner (as one example)
The extreme divide has more to do with the extremely divided republican party than the democratic party.
To win elections the republican party has to placate the extreme religious/extreme (please note, I did not say extremist) right side of their party.
I have been very closely following US presidential elections since 1988 during the George Bush senior ran against Dukakis. This was already a bit on the nasty side with the Willy Horton adds but compared to how the US political scene is now, that election was relatively polite compared to later elections. Ever since the hawks/right side of the republican party has tasted the success of the Bush junior presidential victories they have become a very very vocal minority in the republican party. Together with the extremely religious part of the republican party, main stream republican politicians/presidential candidates have to bend over backwards to get nominated/elected.
Look at Mitt Romney, who had to run on a platform of being a very very very conservative republican to even get nominated, after which he had to try and etch-a-sketch himself to even make a chance to get elected.
It is not the democratic party or it's president who have moved from their political position (or not much at least) but it has been the republican party who has moved towards the right so much that it has lead to at least a very extreme political divisiveness in the US political scene. Not even the great republican take-over of 1994 was so divisive as the current Republican congress. They worked (forced due to the realities of the time) with Bill Clinton to have a prosperous time with much better fiscal balance that since then.
But democrats are also to blame for the bad fiscal balance of today but as the republicans have control of the house and they have clearly proven their insistence not to want to work with Obama no matter what (to save their own skins in the next election cycle because if they do not they will be toppled by tea-party members from their cushy congressional seats/senate seats). The total number of ridiculous votes against Obamacare proves IMHO that the republicans are only interested in working against Obama and have no wish to compromise in any way shape or form.
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