in favor of budget reduction
this kind of stuff could only come from the kind of crowd who read the 2008 election as a mandate for a sweeping progressive takeover of the economy. doesn't he realize he will lose these fights?
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yeah. i'm sure they're going to lose alot of public support if they come out against amnesty, in favor of budget reduction, and against raising taxes. :roll:
[emphasis added by bubba]this kind of stuff could only come from the kind of crowd who read the 2008 election as a mandate for a sweeping progressive takeover of the economy. doesn't he realize he will lose these fights?
The White House plans to test Republicans' unity and political resolve on three controversial issues: repealing the Bush tax cuts, implementing the deficit commission's findings, and pushing immigration reform. Obama's team says that these issues will make for good policy—and good politics, forcing Republicans elected in swing districts to choose between placating Democrats and independents and risking a possible Tea Party challenge in 2012.
The White House believes immigration reform may be the toughest test for the GOP—even tougher than tackling the deficit. "This will separate the reasonable Republicans from the pack running for president," said one senior Obama aide...
yeah. i'm sure they're going to lose alot of public support if they come out against amnesty, in favor of budget reduction, and against raising taxes. :roll:
You mean if they come out lying?
Wow, you're going to be feeling foolish soon. This is actually a pretty brilliant strategy for the Democrats.
It's divide and conquer. Most reasonable Republicans support tax cuts for the middle classes, whereas Tea Partiers are just shills for corporate interests who will fight to the last to ensure tax cuts for the wealthy.
Most reasonable Republicans support a path to citizenship
Tea Partiers are generally racists who hate Hispanics as a matter of principle
It's a great scheme, make the reasonable Republicans see that the fringe elements of the party haven't got their best interests at heart. And once the Republican establishment realizes that the Tea Partiers are a liability, it's going to mean the end of the Tea Party.
so, you seem to think that the public is not opposed to the illegal hiring of illegal workers, who displace American citizens expecting to earn a fair wage
or that the public does not mind that its tax dollars are being spent foolishly, or that the man on the street has no objaction to giving tax breaks to billionaire$ while we saddle our kids with ever larger federal deficits
Bring it on, Obama. This will seal your fate once and for all, if it's not already.
i think that the public supports laws like Arizona's, and support laws which specifically target employers for hiring illegals in the first place.
billionaires? people who own small businesses that bring in $250,000 annually are billionaires?
Replace "tax breaks to the highest earners" with "targeted investments for the politically connected" and you have described Obama's policies very well.no surprise that distinction was absent from one who subscribes to a party which condones the hiring of illegals, spending tax dollars foolishly and handing out tax breaks to the highest earners while more of the population is falling into poverty
billionaires? people who own small businesses that bring in $250,000 annually are billionaires?
You cant spell Liberal without LIE and you cant spell Conservative without CON.
Wow, you're going to be feeling foolish soon. This is actually a pretty brilliant strategy for the Democrats.
It's divide and conquer. Most reasonable Republicans support tax cuts for the middle classes, whereas Tea Partiers are just shills for corporate interests who will fight to the last to ensure tax cuts for the wealthy. Most reasonable Republicans support a path to citizenship, Tea Partiers are generally racists who hate Hispanics as a matter of principle (ever see the South Park "They took our jerbs!" episode? That's the Tea Party).
It's a great scheme, make the reasonable Republicans see that the fringe elements of the party haven't got their best interests at heart. And once the Republican establishment realizes that the Tea Partiers are a liability, it's going to mean the end of the Tea Party.
Corporate profits are different than personal income, or at the very least the owner has the option in many cases to treat them differently especially if they are re-invested into the business or used for other business activities. For example that Obama tax credit for re-investment a while ago that we all forgot about would be an excellent example, by keeping that money as part of the business and not personal income he can pay far less taxes on that purchase than if he bought it himself. Even if he and the business are basically the same entity he still can benefit from keeping money separate and using it while wearing two hats.
Also taxes are only on net profit, not on gross income. So yes I'd say an individual who makes over 250,000 a year can spare a little more in taxes, especially consider he was doing it only 10 years ago and it certainly didnt destroy the economy.
still waiting on the evidence that small business owners are billionaires.
and in the 90's we were in a boom (that was partially a bubble); today we are in an extremely unpredictable time, and business owners are looking for reasons to hoard cash and limit investments. you don't cause economic growth by increasing their incentive to do so, or giving them stronger incentives to invest overseas.
still waiting on the evidence that small business owners are billionaires.
and in the 90's we were in a boom (that was partially a bubble); today we are in an extremely unpredictable time, and business owners are looking for reasons to hoard cash and limit investments. you don't cause economic growth by increasing their incentive to do so, or giving them stronger incentives to invest overseas.
again, exposing an ignorance of basic economicsagain, exposing an ignorance of basic economics
business owners do NOT look for reasons to hoard cash
business owners do NOT look for reasons to limit investments
again, exposing an ignorance of basic economics
successful business owners do NOT spend cash recklessly
successful business owners do NOT invest without expecting a return
The hostility of the Obama administration toward any business without enough cash to buy it off, and the incompetence of the Pelosi-Reid congress in failing to clarify what the tax rates will be even two months from now, have created enough chaos and uncertainty to convince every sentient entrepreneur to hoard cash until they can see which way the wind is blowing.
The consumer ability to buy depends on how much money they have, which in turn depends on how much they can earn by either producing something or providing a service. With the employers unsure of what their expenses will be in two months, it's pretty hard to find a job.we have a consumer economy
where the consumers' ability to buy is now handicapped by a depressed economy
Obviously you are not in business for yourself. Tax rates have a great deal to do with reluctance to risk money.tax rates have little to nothing to do with the reluctance of business to now invest/expand
The consumer ability to buy depends on how much money they have, which in turn depends on how much they can earn by either producing something or providing a service. With the employers unsure of what their expenses will be in two months, it's pretty hard to find a job.
Obviously you are not in business for yourself. Tax rates have a great deal to do with reluctance to risk money.
I never said small business owners were billionaires.
again, exposing an ignorance of basic economics
business owners do NOT look for reasons to hoard cash
business owners do NOT look for reasons to limit investments
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