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Obama Land seeks to harass honest gun owners even more [W:83]

TurtleDude

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Illinois county considers 'violence tax' on guns and ammo | Fox News

hassle honest gun owners to pay for the activities of thugs. I wonder what would happen if there was a tax placed on black males from the ages of 16-45 given such people are far more likely to engage in costly gun violence than those who own guns legally in a fascist county like that containing chicago.
 
Illinois county considers 'violence tax' on guns and ammo | Fox News

hassle honest gun owners to pay for the activities of thugs. I wonder what would happen if there was a tax placed on black males from the ages of 16-45 given such people are far more likely to engage in costly gun violence than those who own guns legally in a fascist county like that containing chicago.

Cook County will raise money any way they can. I'm embarrassed to live in Illinois, frankly. If I could move, I'd be on the next train outa' town.
 
Cook County will raise money any way they can. I'm embarrassed to live in Illinois, frankly. If I could move, I'd be on the next train outa' town.

assholes like those politicians should not only be denied having armed protection their homes should have signs saying they oppose honest people being armed and that their households are gun free
 
The title of this thread is a blatant exercise in intellectual dishonesty as President Obama has not a damn thing to do with this.
 
assholes like those politicians should not only be denied having armed protection their homes should have signs saying they oppose honest people being armed and that their households are gun free

Which makes it easier for certain "honest people" to feel free to do what exactly?
 
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The title of this thread is a blatant exercise in intellectual dishonesty as President Obama has not a damn thing to do with this.

I noted Obama Land

Lets have some fun

what is your opinion of this proposed tax
 
Which makes it easier for certain people to feel free to do what exactly?

rape and kill them which is what they want to have happen when they disarm others. I want them to know what it is like to have to live in a crime infested city and have only 9-1-1 as their salvation rather than taxpayer provided armed guards and impossible for others to get pistol permits
 
I noted Obama Land

Lets have some fun

what is your opinion of this proposed tax

Wading through the septic tank of intellectual dishonesty is not my idea of fun. But do enjoy the swim if that is your cup of tea.
 
Wading through the septic tank of intellectual dishonesty is not my idea of fun. But do enjoy the swim if that is your cup of tea.

How about actually addressing the topic of this thread rather than whining about my posts.

Do you have an opinion on this tax?
 
rape and kill them which is what they want to have happen when they disarm others. I want them to know what it is like to have to live in a crime infested city and have only 9-1-1 as their salvation rather than taxpayer provided armed guards and impossible for others to get pistol permits

RAPE AND KILL THEM.

RAPE AND KILL THEM.

That is what you are advocating and that is your idea of the nation in which you want to live.

Completely amazing!!!!!! Just beyond belief that anyone in this day and age would advocate such a thing on a site dedicated... or at least supposedly dedicated ... to an exchange of ideas called debate. :roll::shock::(
 
Obama had nothing to do with this, title is blatantly dishonest.
 
I noted Obama Land

Lets have some fun

what is your opinion of this proposed tax

As the thread is based on an outright lie designed to smear the President of the USA, I will not dignify it with anything but exposing it for what it is.
 
As the thread is based on an outright lie designed to smear the President of the USA, I will not dignify it with anything but exposing it for what it is.

then why are you on the thread? are you saying I am smearing Obama by linking him to a PLAN PROPOSED BY FELLOW CHICAGO DEMOCRATS?
 
Obama had nothing to do with this, title is blatantly dishonest.

Never said he did-I merely called chicago Obama Land. he's from the dem party in chicago, his former CoS runs the place.
 
Never said he did-I merely called chicago Obama Land. he's from the dem party in chicago, his former CoS runs the place.

But you implied it, you can't deny that.
 
But you implied it, you can't deny that.

sure, he is a prototypical example of the clowns who run the dem party in that city. similar mindsets.
 
DAMN, when I read 'Obama land' I thought it was some thread about Kenya or some such...but I get the Chicago link.

It is comical how Hay and YS are spinning it though...
 
sure, he is a prototypical example of the clowns who run the dem party in that city. similar mindsets.

Obama has done nothing against gun rights while in office. I fail to see any real connection.
 
Obama has done nothing against gun rights while in office. I fail to see any real connection.

well he was in office (senate) when he voted against laws protecting gun makers from being sued by cities for criminal misuse of guns He was in office when he advocated reinstituting the clinton gun ban and he was in favor of a complete ban on handguns early in his political career. He also appointed SOtomayor to the USSC and she had a well known anti gun streak which she continued in the losing side of McDonald v Chicago lawsuit. His Vice president voted for more federal anti gun bills than any other VP in history including being CLinton's main point man for the clinton gun ban in the senate. His appointees to the federal bench have been far more anti gun than those appointed by Bush
 
well he was in office (senate) when he voted against laws protecting gun makers from being sued by cities for criminal misuse of guns He was in office when he advocated reinstituting the clinton gun ban and he was in favor of a complete ban on handguns early in his political career. He also appointed SOtomayor to the USSC and she had a well known anti gun streak which she continued in the losing side of McDonald v Chicago lawsuit. His Vice president voted for more federal anti gun bills than any other VP in history including being CLinton's main point man for the clinton gun ban in the senate. His appointees to the federal bench have been far more anti gun than those appointed by Bush

Didn't I already prove you wrong on this before?

Oh yeah.


Nothing?

Oh wait, except this:


Flashback to four years ago:
"According to FBI figures for the week of November 3 to 9 of 2008, the bureau received more than 374,000 requests for background checks on gun purchasers -- a nearly 49 percent increase over the same period in 2007. Conatser said his store, Virginia Arms Company, has run out of some models -- such as the AR-15 rifle, the civilian version of the military's M-16 -- and is running low on others."
Gun sales surge after Obama's election - CNN

Then he goes and does this:
"Obama's record on this issue has been largely overlooked — except by the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence, which recently issued a report card flunking Obama on all seven issues it deems important. Said President Paul Helmke, "If I had been told, in the days before Barack Obama's inauguration, that his record on gun violence prevention would be this poor, I would not have believed it."

Had he listened to the candidate in 2008, he would have believed. At a September campaign rally in rural Virginia, Obama declared unequivocally, "I believe in the Second Amendment. I believe in people's lawful right to bear arms. I will not take your shotgun away. I will not take your rifle away. I won't take your handgun away. .. There are some common-sense gun safety laws that I believe in. But I am not going to take your guns away."

The Brady Center must have hoped he was being less than honest. And he was: He had no intention of pushing those "common-sense" laws he had previously favored. On the list of issues for which Obama is willing to put himself on the line, gun control ranks somewhere below free trade with Uzbekistan."
Obama anti-gun?No, anti-gun control - Chicago Tribune

I own several firearms. And originally, i was somewhat reluctant to go out and support Obama. But after listening to NRA driven paranoia for the past 4 years, I kinda realized something was up.


but, my apologies Turtledude. Don't let me get in the way of your fear-mongering.
 
Didn't I already prove you wrong on this before?

Oh yeah.

you will never be able to prove me wrong since everything I posted is 100% accurate. and I don't care if you own guns, many leftwing politicians own guns and don't want others to. French knights all owned crossbows and made possession of one by a commoner a capital offense. Samurai disemboweled lower classes caught with swords-with swords
 
And for the record, Obama-land would be Hawaii.

Or Kenya, if you're an idiot, er, I mean 'birther.'
 
Obama has done nothing against gun rights while in office. I fail to see any real connection.

that is because you have to look at this through the perverted skewed lens of the True Believer for whom all things Obama is the Great Satan. :roll:;)
 
you will never be able to prove me wrong since everything I posted is 100% accurate. and I don't care if you own guns, many leftwing politicians own guns and don't want others to. French knights all owned crossbows and made possession of one by a commoner a capital offense. Samurai disemboweled lower classes caught with swords-with swords

Turtledude I respect you with regards as you remain a hack, but still are logical and intelligent. but I can't understand why you openly refuse to accept any of the data I posted and instead go through the fear-mongering route.

But as you once told me,

I guess you have nothing to rebut my assertion with then

cool
 
And for the record, Obama-land would be Hawaii.

Or Kenya, if you're an idiot, er, I mean 'birther.'

or Indonesia if you want to list where some of his most formative years took place

but it is the Chicago cesspool of a corrupt political machine that foisted Obama on us. Do you recall how he got a basically free ride into the senate? a dem judge and a leftwing yellow journalist got rid of the guy who was going to beat Obama in the general election
 
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