Obama Just Finished His Speech In Israel, People Are Already Saying He Made History

[RDS]

Shalom. Start working on it and let them live with dignity.

Here is the key paragraph from his speech:
But the Palestinian people’s right to self-determination and justice must also be recognized. Put yourself in their shoes – look at the world through their eyes. It is not fair that a Palestinian child cannot grow up in a state of her own, and lives with the presence of a foreign army that controls the movements of her parents every single day. It is not just when settler violence against Palestinians goes unpunished. It is not right to prevent Palestinians from farming their lands; to restrict a student’s ability to move around the West Bank; or to displace Palestinian families from their home. Neither occupation nor expulsion is the answer. Just as Israelis built a state in their homeland, Palestinians have a right to be a free people in their own land.


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[Jredbaron96]

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Palestinians, Israelis Come Together To Mock Obama's Hopelessly Naive Speech | The Onion - America's Finest News Source

Yeah, I doubt it.

 

[Quag]

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Palestinians, Israelis Come Together To Mock Obama's Hopelessly Naive Speech | The Onion - America's Finest News Source

Yeah, I doubt it.

The Onion seriously?

 

[Muddy Creek]

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Shalom. Start working on it and let them live with dignity.

Good. Israel has NO right stealing land from Palestine and being a terrorist nation to Lebanon. If Israel has need for more land, then go to the countries to negotiate. But taking the Bush strategy of just invading and occupying does not count for much in this world anymore except to be perceived as a terrorist.

 

[Muddy Creek]

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Palestinians, Israelis Come Together To Mock Obama's Hopelessly Naive Speech | The Onion - America's Finest News Source

Yeah, I doubt it.

The Onion? ROFLMAO!!!

 

[Jredbaron96]

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The Onion seriously?

I was joking.

 

[Jredbaron96]

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The Onion? ROFLMAO!!!

The Onion is great, but I was not implying it is a reliable news source. I just found that and I thought it was hilarious.

 

[Dr. Chuckles]

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Shalom. Start working on it and let them live with dignity.

Meh, Obama loves giving lofty speeches. I'll give him credit when we see real policy changes

 

[RDS]

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Meh, Obama loves giving lofty speeches. I'll give him credit when we see real policy changes

I will give him credit instantly because his off the cuff lofty speeches got him the votes and presidency.

 

[Dr. Chuckles]

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I will give him credit instantly because his off the cuff lofty speeches got him the votes and presidency.

yeah, which doesn't amount to an actual shift on policy. Which is seemingly what you are trying to highlight in the OP?

 

[RDS]

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yeah, which doesn't amount to an actual shift on policy. Which is seemingly what you are trying to highlight in the OP?

Kill your opponent with eloquence first.

 

[Dr. Chuckles]

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Kill your opponent with eloquence first.

Well, that was kind of my point: Obama will give lofty speeches that have no follow through. Hence, my skepticism about this speech being any different.

 

[RDS]

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Well, that was kind of my point: Obama will give lofty speeches that have no follow through. Hence, my skepticism about this speech being any different.

My point is he used his strength to get into office for a second term and he will leave office with a fat pension regardless of policy.

 

[Fisher]

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He made history how exactly? By getting a medal from a country he despises perhaps. Islamist and Jews will never see eye to eye :2wave:

 

[Dr. Chuckles]

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My point is he used his strength to get into office for a second term and he will leave office with a fat pension regardless of policy.

uh, again, wasn't this thread made with the intent of highlighting a policy shift, based on his speech?

 

[RDS]

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uh, again, wasn't this thread made with the intent of highlighting a policy shift, based on his speech?

Anyway no outsider can influence policy changes in Israel.

 

[Dr. Chuckles]

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Anyway no outsider can influence policy changes in Israel.

well, through our funding and the protection we offer in the UN, it's rather clear we can exercise a lot of influence

 

[RDS]

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well, through our funding and the protection we offer in the UN, it's rather clear we can exercise a lot of influence

So far nothing positive came out with the decades long Palestinian problem.