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Obama: I'll cut $4 trillion

november 2, 2010: republicans win most house seats since 1938, most state reps and legislatures in history, 10 gubs, 6 senators...

what's changed?

ryan did what gop'ers campaigned on

it REPEALS obamacare, y'know

and the slasher---right where he was, just a little more partisan, a little more political, a little more bereft of solutions...

and a lot more in debt

seeya at the polls, progressives
 

yeah I am an elitist to some extent. I think those who work hard an achieve are worth more than those who are suckers on the public teat.

and plenty of rich people are scum and plenty of poor people are princes-like the sharecropper's son, the grand son of a slave, who worked for my great grandfather, my grandfather and my parents and when he died at 99 he owed no one a penny and both of his sons had doctorates. when my grandmother died she left him her cadillac in her will and he insisted on paying my grandfather fmv for the car saying he had been paid fair wages and treated with respect and that was all he should expect. He was a great man. He taught me a great deal
 
today:


Biden deficit panel starts slowly - Manu Raju and Carrie Budoff Brown - POLITICO.com

days and weeks, huh?

at 30 billion per?

maybe he shoulda called the members in advance

but, hey, how many calls can a slasher make in a week?

the king of pork, huh, harry?

in addition to having no solutions, on top of the slasher's crass politicization of our crises and depressing resort to class envy, all americans can see that barack the slasher hussein is a pitifully poor improviser

maybe he shoulda had a plan

y'know, before he made that excellent speech, that great speech

leadership, anyone?
 

I agree man! He sucks. Not denying that. They all suck for the most part.
 
why in the world would you presume mature americans care about what you do or don't disagree with

president slash, if you actually have some kind of plan to address our budget mess, more than just a stump speech, please get harry to act upon it fast

the nyt says INTERST ON THE DEBT alone will soon approach ONE TRILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR
 

Obama: GOP tried to "sneak" agenda into budget - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

politics and personal attacks, mr president?

in times like these?

what's next, another FOX NEWS WAR?

leadership aside, president slasher, where's YOUR PLAN?
 

Hold on!!!

Nearly 50% of Americans don't pay federal income taxes and 60% recieve more from the government than they pay in taxes. Americans who don't pay taxes still get to vote to raise taxes on those of us who do.

I live in a bad neighborhood and there is a park within view of my home. All day long there are dozens of people who hang out alllllll daaay Lonnnnnng and drink, do drugs and fight, every day, weather permitting. They are all healthy and fully capable of working or going to school but they choose to hang out in the park and party. When I see them in the grocery store, they are paying with food stamps.

Call me an elitist for thinking they should lose the right to vote and get drugged tested if they are on welfare but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that they are going to vote for whoever promises to take more money from “rich” people and give it to them so they can keep partying and never need to go get a job.
 

In Texas, anybody who has been convicted of a drug related crime is ineligible for food stamps. I believe that this is going to far. If it was just the druggie, I wouldn't give a damn, but I do give a damn about the druggie's kids.
 
In Texas, anybody who has been convicted of a drug related crime is ineligible for food stamps. I believe that this is going to far. If it was just the druggie, I wouldn't give a damn, but I do give a damn about the druggie's kids.

The druggies' kids would be better off if the druggie parent didn't recieve food stamps. That said, I wouldn't support a law that doesn't respect the fact that people can get clean and turn thier lives around. I think food stamps is the right thing to do but I don't think we do enough to prevent its abuse.
 

Do you really think that people like that bother to vote at all? Seriously?
 
His speech wasn't sound because it was a CAMPAIGN SPEECH. Its obvious his #1 goal was to get this rhetoric crap to as many potential first time voters as possible. That's one of the big reasons he won in 2008, he duped many of the 18-24 year olds/college students/first time voters into thinking that everything Bush did was terrible. It's no coincidence that he made this speech at a local university, he even mentioned in his speech that he was glad he could get so many of them out of class!

His party couldn't get a budget passed in 2011, then they wanted to blame it on those who had to pick up the slack. He said both sides need to step it up and get a budget passed, then he makes his comments about Paul Ryan's budget. Then he had the nerve to get up on stage and try to bulls**t the American people into thinking that higher taxes for the rich and entitlement reform would help. All of us who were actually awake during his speech could see that 1. Raising taxes won't be enough and 2. He will never win a re-election with entitlement reform.

I completely understand why Biden would sleep during this fool's speech.
 
"When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -- Ben Franklin
 
"When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -- Ben Franklin

"He that blows the coals in quarrels that he has nothing to do with, has no right to complain if the sparks fly in his face."

same guy from the 1700's
 
"When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -- Ben Franklin

I see one of the main fans in supporting the mob voting themselves the wealth of others doesn't like Franklin either
 
I see one of the main fans in supporting the mob voting themselves the wealth of others doesn't like Franklin either

I like Franklin. Nice glasses. Cool kite.

What I do not like is people who fail to support their pontificating with proper evidence.
 
I like Franklin. Nice glasses. Cool kite.

What I do not like is people who fail to support their pontificating with proper evidence.

the evidence is obvious-you pretend it doesn't exist because it demonstrates how pathetic your desires are. you have constantly defended the system that allows the many to vote up-through the people they elect-the taxes of the top tax payers.
 
the evidence is obvious-you pretend it doesn't exist because it demonstrates how pathetic your desires are. you have constantly defended the system that allows the many to vote up-through the people they elect-the taxes of the top tax payers.

In Debate, there is no obvious evidence. That is not how debate works. If it is so obvious, just present it so we can verify it and examine it. You make a claim, you support the claim with evidence, we examine it and challenge it or accept it. That is how this works. This is not the I BELIEVE site. It is the DEBATE POLITICS site.
 

sorry I don't recall ANYONE apointing you the master debator or lord high imposer of the rules

and you spew crap constantly that doesn't meet your own biased rules
 
big picture: if medicare, medicaid and social security are such wonderful programs, then why are all three in such dire need of fixing

why are all three, absent some kinda periclean leadership, quickly on course to kill us

y'need evidence?
 
sorry I don't recall ANYONE apointing you the master debator or lord high imposer of the rules

and you spew crap constantly that doesn't meet your own biased rules

And that little retort is suppose to justify your scorn for presenting actual evidence to support your allegations and pontifications?

Try again and this time come back with something more than just attacking me.

I have been on sites like this for many years and i have never come up against one person who actually comes out and says they do NOT need evidence to support their claims. Not one. So you are in a class by yourself Turtle.
 


Your claims of expertise are unsupported by evidence

what we do know is that you have supported a system that allows the many to vote away the wealth of others
 
remember this one:

barack obama (before he became the slasher hussein) in january, 2010, addressing the consternation in his caucus about the upcoming shellacking they could all see coming, just like 1994---"the big difference between now and 94 is you've got me"

The Big Difference Between 2010 and 1994 Is Me - Political Punch

know the man

they say we all can't pay the rent
before it's earned our money's all been spent
i don't know, my dear, you aint got a pot
but at least i'm sure of all the things that you got
me
you got me, babe
you got me, babe...

LOL!
 
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