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No? It's what Obama promised.
Then all you have to do is move to a country where that is legal.
Medicare, Medicaid, and the VA don't seem to have incurred any legal problems as to their legitimacy.
The federal government has a right to tax for the public good. What the federal government does not have the right to do is force you, without a positive action on your part) to purchase something from a private company. There is a difference between the fed taxing for Medicare, and the fed forcing you to buy insurance coverage from a private company.
Fine by me, but it is what Obama promised. If we liked our coverage, we could keep it. Of course the two words in politics that mean the least, "Obama said..." LOLIf you're just going to trot out stupid cliches instead of actually discussing the issue, I'm finished responding to you. Kthxbai.
Now, I’ve heard rumors that a few of you have some concerns about the new health care law. So let me be the first to say that anything can be improved. If you have ideas about how to improve this law by making care better or more affordable, I am eager to work with you. We can start right now by correcting a flaw in the legislation that has placed an unnecessary bookkeeping burden on small businesses.
What if instead they forced you to buy insurance coverage from the federal government? Would that placate you?
'seems to be legal because it has existed for x years' is a very poor argument. There's much better ways to argue the health care bill than this.
The only reason SS is still here is because its very popular, not because its constitutional.
Bottom line: tort reform is not important.
I don't have any problem with that.
If the government instead raised taxes across the board, then offered a tax credit for those who had insurance, would you still think it was illegal?
Kandahar;1059256880]Medicare, Medicaid, and the VA don't seem to have incurred any legal problems as to their legitimacy.
The majority of the American people either approve of the law or wish it had gone farther.
A bare-bones policy that I'm quite certain would try to screw me over if the need ever arose, yes.
As to your question: I don't have the exact statistics. Some are unable to afford it due to low incomes, some are unable to afford it due to pursuing higher education, and some are unable to afford it due to being too old or having a preexisting condition. And some are unable to afford it because our tax structure distorts the incentive for insurers to offer individual plans, as opposed to corporate plans (a problem which was not solved by the reform law, but should be).
We have by far the highest health care costs in the world, with no better results than many other countries.
bottom line---how do you control health care costs while massively expanding its enrollment?
If the government instead raised taxes across the board, then offered a tax credit for those who had insurance, would you still think it was illegal? It would have exactly the same economic impact.
few care what you do or don't have problems with
Except I'm talking about EVERYONE...and I'm talking about ACTUALLY not being able to afford it (as in premiums that are thousands and thousands of dollars per year). Not complaining that you can't afford it, then paying the bill. You can't just ban preexisting conditions and expect everything else to stay the same. Economics does not work like that.
The way Pre-ex works is that if you are deemed to have a pre-existing condition, you are not going to be reimbursed for medical expenses related to that condition for the frst 2 years of the policy. 2 years is fairly common pre-ex exclusion, it can be slightly more or less. You can obtain treatment for other conditions, just not he condition that was pre-existing signing up for the coverage. After the two year period is up, you can obtain reimbursement for treatment related to the pre-ex condition.
The way HIPAA deals with it, is they give creditable coverage for moving between plans. For example, if you have a pre-ex condition and have an unboken chain of insurance, you can move between policies without restarting the pre-ex exclusion period.
It's certainly not as bad or scary as the porponents of this bill scared people into believing.
If the government setup a medicare/medicaid system for all, I wouldn't be happy with it. I think it would reslt in lower quality of care. Additionally, I think it would have zero chance of passing in the current congress. However, I don't believe that it would be unconstitutional.
Not everyone pays into those programs and the VA requires military service
Conservative said:You need to get out of the beltway more, that simply isn't true.
Conservative said:Still don't seem to comprehend personal responsibility issues. The govt. screws you over everyday but it must feel so good you want to extend the effort.
Conservative said:Don't you think you should get the exact number before trying to force a program on the rest of us? Low income people qualify for Medicaid, some qualify for Medicare if they are old enough , some are illegal aliens that use the services and don't pay for it, some are offered healthcare with their company but CHOOSE not to participate, some are rich enough to fund their own healthcare costs.
Conservative said:So I am told, wonder why? Have you ever bothered to do the research to find out why our costs are so high? Don't you think you should? How much do govt. regulations add to costs?
Conservative said:How about malpractice suits?
Conservative said:How about our porous borders and illegals using the ER's?
Conservative said:How about the inability to compete across state lines?
Conservative said:How about FDA approval time for drugs and govt. approval for new medical procedures?
Conservative said:Want me to go on or do you care? For you and many others it is all about access and really has nothing to do with costs as long as someone else is paying for it and therein lies the problem
I know come April my 2 years is up. I then will be looking for insurance again because $800 a month is way to much. Thank you Obama for unaffordable insurance
Chances are it probably would have gone up, with or without the health care bill...
Well, and even if insurance premiums have been going up, this year the jump was far greater than years prior. Why can folks not see why that is?For 10 years I have been with several companies and always paid around $600 a month
Things are crumbling for Obama overseas and at home. Here's the Bamster's new theme song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-magrm3Voo
For 10 years I have been with several companies and always paid around $600 a month
For 10 years I have been with several companies and always paid around $600 a month
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