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..there seems to me like there is substantially larger difference between the former CEO of Halliburton being part (and by that I mean second in command) of the same administration that gave Halliburton billion dollar contracts...
And a guy who is :
Deputy health and human services secretary nominee
On another note though :
.....what exactly is a : Deputy Health and Human Services Secretary?
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Obama promised change from politics as usual and thus far is a miserable failure.
..there seems to me like there is substantially larger difference between the former CEO of Halliburton being part (and by that I mean second in command) of the same administration that gave Halliburton billion dollar contracts.
..there seems to me like there is substantially larger difference between the former CEO of Halliburton being part (and by that I mean second in command) of the same administration that gave Halliburton billion dollar contracts...
And a guy who is :
Deputy health and human services secretary nominee[/I]
On another note though :
.....what exactly is a : Deputy Health and Human Services Secretary?
In practice, I would assume that a Deputy Secretary of Defense will have far more contact with and influence over matters involving Raytheon than a Vice-President would have with Halliburton.
He's been in office a week and you pronounce him a "miserable failure". I'm surprised you waited so long. Honeymoon, eh?
I think we all realize that when non-elected officials are not in office, they often work as lobbyists. That doesn't mean they sell their soul to K street, and it certainly doesn't brand the Obama administration as a "miserable failure"
I think we all realize that when non-elected officials are not in office, they often work as lobbyists. That doesn't mean they sell their soul to K street.
..there seems to me like there is substantially larger difference between the former CEO of Halliburton being part (and by that I mean second in command) of the same administration that gave Halliburton billion dollar contracts...
And a guy who is :
Deputy health and human services secretary nominee
On another note though :
.....what exactly is a : Deputy Health and Human Services Secretary?
Are you OK with the fact that Obama lied about having lobbyists in his administration?Does anyone actually know a lobbyist? I thought they were just people representing an organization to the government. Usually picked for specific qualities.
-charismatic
-knowledge of "the Hill"
-connections with congress
-intelligent
-very knowledgeable in an area that some organization feels deserves government attention
A former lobbyist may possess all these qualities and more, but no longer represent a large contingent of people or corporations. I suppose some lobbyists represent their interest group for personal reasons, but it wouldn't surprise me if many others are just good at their job.
Does anyone actually know a lobbyist? I thought they were just people representing an organization to the government. Usually picked for specific qualities.
-charismatic
-knowledge of "the Hill"
-connections with congress
-intelligent
-very knowledgeable in an area that some organization feels deserves government attention
A former lobbyist may possess all these qualities and more, but no longer represent a large contingent of people or corporations. I suppose some lobbyists represent their interest group for personal reasons, but it wouldn't surprise me if many others are just good at their job.
Are you OK with the fact that Obama lied about having lobbyists in his administration?
Given the fact the posters is rabid about calling me out for $400 kobe beef mislabling, I would be interested in his answer as well. :mrgreen:
Wow, can't let it go can ya rev?
Yeah I guess I didn't pay much attention to that particular quote, looks like he lied.
I thought he said something about lobbyists not having any significant influence on his administration, oh well.
Does anyone actually know a lobbyist? I thought they were just people representing an organization to the government. Usually picked for specific qualities.
-charismatic
-knowledge of "the Hill"
-connections with congress
-intelligent
-very knowledgeable in an area that some organization feels deserves government attention
A former lobbyist may possess all these qualities and more, but no longer represent a large contingent of people or corporations. I suppose some lobbyists represent their interest group for personal reasons, but it wouldn't surprise me if many others are just good at their job.
I know this is going to sound rude but maybe you would hear us if you listened to someone other than yourself. I've admitted it, I've admitted it many times. There are many things that bother me about Obama but I am stuck defending him because you people keep attacking him about things that do not bother me. I know people here may try to be all nice and informative but honestly there are a lot of outlets out there for people to vent on and they are all pretty much ridiculous.Admitting Obama lied...err I mean, "CHANGEd his mind" would mean admitting he is not the Messiah and is in fact a politican who manipulated the medias muckraking of Bush magnifcantely to make unrealistic promises to win a campaign. No Obamaniac can admit this without inducing a stroke.
Who is "us"? And I can't listen to you because your written words don't talk to me. :mrgreen:I know this is going to sound rude but maybe you would hear us if you listened to someone other than yourself.
Why do you think this this about you?I've admitted it, I've admitted it many times. There are many things that bother me about Obama but I am stuck defending him because you people keep attacking him about things that do not bother me.
pot meet kettleI know people here may try to be all nice and informative but honestly there are a lot of outlets out there for people to vent on and they are all pretty much ridiculous.
see above.Anyway when you want to have an intelligent discussion about Obama's past and present failures then I am all ears.
umm this thread is about Obama being a LIAR about LOBBYISTS. Not about the red-herrings you mention.I have yet to hear anything at all about that outside of here... all I hear is "Obama is a socialist", or "Obama is a muslim", or "Obama the Messiah".
I know he lied about lobbyists. :shock: you do know that that is what this thread is about right?To be perfectly honest I don't think the little people in the GOP really know why they hate the guy at all because they don't know 1 thing about him or anything else for that matter.
This didn't make sense at all. Were you making a chili dinner for your kids and incidentally typed your experience? :mrgreen:Someone makes some chili and of course, "I WANT SOME CHILI!!", "NO, YOU CAN'T HAVE CHILI!" blah blah blah nothing is ever getting done.
There you go.As a bonus its an psychology experiment about Obamaphiles experiencing cognitive dissonance and how they deal with it.
Your total lack of empathy and plain old fashioned common sense certainly explains a lot.This didn't make sense at all.
There you go.
Your total lack of empathy and plain old fashioned common sense certainly explains a lot.
If the only thing you have to stand up to me with is that you don't like me then this "debate" is going to be a short one. :lol:
You really need to grow up especially if you want me to waste my time "debating" things with you of which you just won't listen to regardless. Your logic is predetermined and at any point anybody else's logic is not predetermined you attempt to bully them into submission or you cry about it until it or you simply goes away. It's a ridiculous tactic that has become quite predictable.
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