celticlord
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Something else to add to the extensive list of things about which Dear Leader knows nothing: standard police procedure."I have to say I am surprised by the controversy surrounding my statement, because I think it was a pretty straightforward commentary that you probably don't need to handcuff a guy, a middle-aged man who uses a cane, who's in his own home," Obama said.
And the parts about him saying he didn't actually know the facts of the situation, or that his own Secret Service would shoot him outside the White House because he's black?
He didn't say they would shoot him because he was black. He said that they would shoot him if he tried to break into the White House. And he was half-joking.
Proving two things:He didn't say they would shoot him because he was black. He said that they would shoot him if he tried to break into the White House. And he was half-joking.
Actually, you would not be that likely to get shot. Only if you were posing an immediate threat on someone's life would deadly force be used.I'd be shot if i tried breaking into the White House ... but i don't think it would have anything to do with the fact i am black but rather i am trespassing :2razz:
Proving two things:
- He has a piss-poor sense of humor.
- He doesn't appreciate the skill and professionalism of his own security detail. They do not just shoot first and ask question later.
He didn't say they would shoot him because he was black. He said that they would shoot him if he tried to break into the White House. And he was half-joking.
Just because a case was dropped does not mean there was no legal basis for the arrest. It means the DA declined to pursue prosecution--which is entirely his call to make.The presented facts are that when Gates let the police into his home, he did show them a couple of ID cards, license and Harvard ID (he lives in a Harvard house). Case closed. Unless there was a physical assault by Gates there would have been zero reason to arrest him. The case was fully dropped because it had no legal basis to proceed. That is the fact of the matter. Therefore the police officer acted stupidly, by definition, since he had no just cause for arrest.
You know Rush Limbaugh is found of saying that if you put a bag of excrement in front of a Democrat, they can't help stepping in it.
What could have possessed him to involve himself in this issue, while admitting that he doesn't posses "all the facts" ?
Oh, I know, idiocy! I regret to admit that there was a time that I was concerned the this man would present an intellectual threat to Conservatism.
I think people are intentionally making mountains out of molehills in order to distract from the real purpose of his press conference and how great he handled it.
One must side with the Race Baiter in chief I suppose...It seems a bit of a stretch to arrest someone for disorderly conduct in their own home when that person exercises a legal right to verify the badge number of the police officer. Even if Gates was "uppity" about it, there is no law against being a jerk, since that right is protected by the 1st Amendment, especially in the privacy of one's own home.
The presented facts are that when Gates let the police into his home, he did show them a couple of ID cards, license and Harvard ID (he lives in a Harvard house). Case closed. Unless there was a physical assault by Gates there would have been zero reason to arrest him. The case was fully dropped because it had no legal basis to proceed. That is the fact of the matter. Therefore the police officer acted stupidly, by definition, since he had no just cause for arrest.
Why?I think both sides of this thing, the police and the person arrested are at fault, but I am not happy at Obama weighing in on this. I think it is both unnecessary and not entirely Obama's fault necessarily.
If one of Obama's advisers told him to weigh in on this, they should be fired.
If this was Obama's own doing, then not only do I have to say Obama was wrong, but you should fire whatever adviser told him that it was ok to say it.
Obama still takes the blame no matter what, but if someone said he should weigh in on it, they should be fired.
Gates was not arrested in his own house.Funny how the libertarians and the libertarian wing of the GOP are so silent about a guy who gets arrested in his own house. Oh forgot, they can use this to play the race card to stir up the inbreds down in Appalachia.
Gates was not arrested in his own house.
He wouldn't have been arrested at all, in fact, if he'd had the good sense to stay in the house.
He decided to follow Sgt Crowley outside, yelling and screaming and carrying on. The Oscar nominations are still a ways off, so Crowley gave him a nice set of matching bracelets as a consolation prize.
Even libertarians know you don't follow cops around shouting at them if you don't want to wind up in the back of a squad car.
How was Crowley in the wrong?Why?
We need a President that will actually stand up and call police out on this type of thing. What is wrong is wrong and the police in this case were clearly in the wrong.
Until someone has the guts to stand up and confront the arrogance of police officers who think that they are above the law and above criticism, then we will never progress as a country.
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