Harry Guerrilla
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....and what does that have to do with anything?
But how would that happen? Will this card transmit a signal to a satellite or something? No. It will simply match you when you present it the way you do now to get a job or whatever, like having your picture on a card would. Big deal.
Nope, no can do. I was against a national ID under Bush. My position remains the same. I doubt they'll make them fire proof.
Personally, I have no problem with this. The Social Security cards are out-of-date and can easily be forged. It's a point of verification, not a method to "track" your every movement. Once the national ID cards carry GPS transmitters, then we can start worrying about Big Brother....
So how's all that hope and change workin out for ya?
.... and then people wonder why nobody takes Libertarians and Tea Party supporters seriously. It is like one big Facebook group for conspiracy theorists.
.... and then people wonder why nobody takes Libertarians and Tea Party supporters seriously. It is like one big Facebook group for conspiracy theorists.
The same groups claimed that social security numbers would be used for keeping track of people. Your side assured everyone that social security numbers were only for claiming social security benefits and would never be used for ID. For a long time even the back of the card said it couldn't be used as ID.
Now try and do anything without your SS number.
Seems the conspiracy theorists were correct. Not all trends are fictitious.
Personally, I have no problem with this. The Social Security cards are out-of-date and can easily be forged. It's a point of verification, not a method to "track" your every movement. Once the national ID cards carry GPS transmitters, then we can start worrying about Big Brother....
If someone dupes your biometric card and does something bad with it, you can't change any of your biometrics.
You're stuck with the possibility of being screwed over again.
The same groups claimed that social security numbers would be used for keeping track of people. Your side assured everyone that social security numbers were only for claiming social security benefits and would never be used for ID. For a long time even the back of the card said it couldn't be used as ID.
Now try and do anything without your SS number.
Seems the conspiracy theorists were correct. Not all trends are fictitious.
And how is that any different than if they dupe your regular ID? Biometric cards are much harder to dupe.
If they have RFID installed, I can steal you info 100x easier.
Even if it's encrypted, it will be broken and a homemade RFID is very easy to come by.
My ID I have not is just fine, they don't need my biometric data.
.... and then people wonder why nobody takes Libertarians and Tea Party supporters seriously. It is like one big Facebook group for conspiracy theorists.
I would not be to quick to write off the Tea Party candidates if I were you.......You remember how the left underestimated Reagan in 1980........
Bonzo could have beaten Carter in '80 and he was underestimated by the right in '76.
Well you should of run Bonzo...........
Are they planning on installing RFID?:roll:
From what I have heard they will be the same as what legal immigrants get. A picture ID with fingerprints and a bar code that can be scanned to verify the authenticity of the card. Kind of like the new passports. It is a good idea and might help solve our illegal immigration problem. I think most are making a bigger deal than it is, probably because Obama wants it.
Worker Biometric ID Under Consideration in US: Senators Charles Schumer and Lindsey Graham have proposed a new national identity card. The Senators would require that "all U.S. citizens and legal immigrants who want jobs" obtain a "high-tech, fraud-proof Social Security card" with a unique biometric identifier. The card, they say, would not contain private information, medical information, or tracking techniques, and the biometric identifiers would not be stored in a government database. EPIC has testified in Congress and commented to federal agencies on the privacy and security risks associated with national identification systems and biometric identifiers. For more information, see EPIC: National ID and the REAL ID Act, EPIC: Biometric Identifiers, and the Privacy Coalition’s Campaign Against REAL ID. (Mar. 24, 2010)
You guys can stop being so paranoid.
THIS IS A GREAT IDEA.
I'm not paranoid, I'm wise to the fact that these fixes don't change anything except make things more expensive for no reason.
So what happens when I create a phony ID card with a false name, my fingerprint and bar code that matches?
I just beat the system.
That sounds a lot harder than making a fake social security card.
I'm not paranoid, I'm wise to the fact that these fixes don't change anything except make things more expensive for no reason.
So what happens when I create a phony ID card with a false name, my fingerprint and bar code that matches?
I just beat the system.
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