Alrighty...
You don't agree? More and more these days we're bombarded with junk. Entertainment, celebrity stories, bloggers with no real news credentials passing themselves off as legitimate, talk show hosts bombarding us with their opinions 24 hours a day. Information overload. Think about how much time you spend on the internet doing nothing.
So what do you propose we do about it?
In my house, we watch television shows/commercials, etc. and we talk about what the intended point was. Was there spin? What did the advertiser want us to do? Was evidence presented?
I want my kids to be able to think, logically, and be able to sort the wheat from the chaff. Kids also need to be taught about sources, use of evidence, and critical thinking in school. When they write a term paper, for instance, part of the grade should be whether they used appropriate sources, interpreted that information accurately, and provided a reasonable thesis.
I understand, however, that I am not at all normal because we are surrounded by sheep.
And your post only proves his point.
When an entire nation begins to confuse opinion with fact, we have a serious problem.
WE are a good part of the problem.
ZOMGWTF!!??!!? You actually take responsibility for how you integrate the information you receive into your and your childrens' lives.
Who knew that was even an option?
Obama said:With iPods and iPads and Xboxes and PlayStations, -- none of which I know how to work
Barack Obama met the Queen at Buckingham Palace today and gave her a gift of an iPod loaded with video footage and photographs of her 2007 United States visit to Richmond, Jamestown and Williamsburg in Virginia.
The Illinois senator's playlist contains these musicians, along with about 30 songs from Dylan and the singer's "Blood on the Tracks" album.
I do think that people are less scrupulous about fact-checking information they receive through technology. They think if it is online, it's true. I've seen you fall prey to this, Vicchio. If it reinforces your existing paradigms, you believe it is true.
Where is my pot/kettle picture when I need it?
Yeah, everyone is more prone to believe information that matches their beliefs then to believe information that goes against it. The Climate forum is a great example of this in action. The warmers refuse to accept ANYTHING that doesn't support AGW 100%.
CC does this all the time in reference to Progressives. Anytime someone posts anything from or about a Progressive that doesn't conform to his standard of what a "Progressive" is, he dismiss it.
The underlying problem with Obama's commentary is that he laments the lack of CONTROL over the media message that once existed. People are no longer reliant on the Big Three and a few newspapers for their news. This means that people learn things from a different source, that may not have the approved spin on it.
Where is my pot/kettle picture when I need it?
I'd give what you say more credence, but you've proven yourself one of the worst on this forum for doing just what your lamenting.This is not true to the extent that you are insinuating. People tend to accept information that matches their belief system, however, what I am taking about is people who completely shut off when their belief system is challenged and a point is proven inaccurate.
We know, we know. Only YOUR version and vision, belief of what a Progressive is, counts. All others are just wrong. Hubris, they name is CC.Not in the least. You just cannot accept that your position on what a progressive is falls perfectly into what I am discussing. Worse yet, because it does, you cannot even see your error.
I agree to some extent. I think that having such a variety of sources to examine is, in essence a good thing. The problem is figuring out what is news and what is spin, what is information and what is info-tainment. This is more of what Obama seems to be discussing.
You took a perfectly good commentary on the information age and turned it into Obama socialism hysteria. Thanks for destroying a potentially good discussion before it could even get off the ground, as usual.
I'd give what you say more credence, but you've proven yourself one of the worst on this forum for doing just what your lamenting.
You are after all, the only person I know that claims he knows what motivated the Founding Fathers in their creation of the Constitution better then their own words. So you'll have to excuse me if I take this commentary of yours as... "Do as I say not as I do" in action.
We know, we know. Only YOUR version and vision, belief of what a Progressive is, counts. All others are just wrong. Hubris, they name is CC.
OF course you agree with Obama. You're a Progressive, he's a Progressive. You see his commentary as thoughtful, and on the mark. Your agreeing with him is as shocking as the sun rising in the east, or a rooster crowing at dawn.
Its called NPD.
Variety is the spice of life... however you agree with Obama's spin... You're a Progressive, he's a Progressive. You see his commentary as thoughtful, and on the mark. Your agreeing with him is as shocking as the sun rising in the east, or a rooster crowing at dawn.
Just as shocking as your constant attacks on him, I'd say. :roll:
Sure thing, as long as it's a poll on whether your version of the Founders motives or THEIR motives are more legit (since that's my position anyway..) I'm game.Now, now, let's not start a CC-MrV war in this thread. You usually end up on the short end of the stick in those. If you want to debate who's more credible in this forum, start a poll, somewhere. I'll happily accept the results. Will you? :lol:
Right-o big guy. Like I said, you're version, vision and belief > anything that doesn't agree with you.Since you have demonstrated that you have no idea what progressivism stands for, nothing you say above applies in any way.
Still not able to see past your nose, eh, MrV? You are doing more to prove what I say is correct by your posts than I could EVER do by myself.
Just as shocking as your constant attacks on him, I'd say. :roll:
There is a difference, though. Obama is an elitist, which is pretty anti-progressive. Further, I don't agree with everything that Obama says or does, unlike certain folks on this thread, who blindly disagree with everything.
Attacks on who? Obama or CC? I don't attack CC until his hypocrisy shows itself.
As for Obama, he's the President, what for I should do on a POLITICAL DEBATE FORUM? Not discuss decisions and comments he makes I find wrong/repulsive/dangerous/dumb? Should I just wait till he does something I agree with then cheer him on?
Sure thing, as long as it's a poll on whether your version of the Founders motives or THEIR motives are more legit (since that's my position anyway..) I'm game.
Right-o big guy. Like I said, you're version, vision and belief > anything that doesn't agree with you.
I merely point the mirror towards you, nothing more. I get my satisfaction from the "Thank you" PM's I get. What do you get of this?
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