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Huh huh.
Look who is changing the goal posts. You originally challenged me to find marches and protests against black on black crime, but now that you have them you suddenly want to change up.
So you are moving the goal post?
I was talking about the vast majority of the black population in this country that have white, i.e. European, genes in them.
You are the one who wants to be meticulous about this. If they are part white then they are part white - that has been your sentiment. It is a fact after all.
Genetic percentages vary no matter how close a relative of a different race is. You can have a black mother and white father and end up with more genetic make up from your father. Making your genetic percentage primarily white.
Genetically speaking, mammals are more like their fathers -- ScienceDaily
Genetically Speaking, You're More Like Your Dad - D-brief
That's just bizarre. 2+2 is not 5, never will be, no matter how many links and kooks you get to back it up. Get it?
Ahem...
[h=3]Ancestry.com Discovers President Obama Related to First Documented Slave in America[/h][h=4]Research Connects First African-American President to First African Slave in the American Colonies[/h]
Ancestry | Press Releases
And your comment about you somehow magically knowing if ancestors didn't suffer under "bigotry and oppression, nor did any of them fight against" is pretty dumb.
That might not be as bad as Blacks always being portrayed, and used politically,as victims.So again, and I love that you are ducking and dodging - You have concluded that the vast majority of african americans are also white americans and by doing so have rendered the term "black" useless.
"About 200 people gathered and marched in Hyde Park and Kenwood Wednesday night, marching through the neighborhood and ending a short time after gathering in front of the Obama family home."Yeah, you got a page full of anti-cop protests because that is what is currently in the news and being covered by the major networks.
"Beyond the data, there’s the anecdotal evidence. And in short, it’s easy to find examples of marches and demonstrations against crime. In the last four years, blacks have held community protests against violence in Chicago; New York; Newark, New Jersey; Pittsburgh; Saginaw, Michigan; and Gary, Indiana" (Black community is concerned with black-on-black crime: Suggesting otherwise is ignoring the facts.)
Look here as well, it includes a number of links to blacks people protesting black-on-black crime. (Why Don't Black People Protest 'Black-on-Black Violence'? - The Atlantic)
For NJ more recently look here (In Newark, an anti-violence rally takes over intersection | NJ.com) and Chicago look here (Anti-violence activists protest across city, including at Obama home - Chicago Tribune)
EDIT: And look here for more NJ black-on-black crime protests (Elizabeth anti-violence protesters stage die-in, while shots fired 2 miles away | NJ.com)
And while they may be categorized as anti-gun violence protests, we know that it is anti black-on-black crime as these places are majority black towns.
So again, and I love that you are ducking and dodging - You have concluded that the vast majority of african americans are also white americans and by doing so have rendered the term "black" useless.
That is your logic. If it's bizarre, and yeah it kind of is, that's no fault of my own. You made up this new standard by which we determine who is black and white.
By your logic - no one really is Black. This is not "liberal" logic - this is me corning a conservative and you are so inept now at arguing your own point that you have essentially become a broken record. Repeating yourself over and over again ad nauseam- but despite the rote rhetoric you are not really saying anything.
How sad.
That might not be as bad as Blacks always being portrayed, and used politically,as victims.
The President mentioned Ferguson, where the DOJ found no wrongdoing by the officer charged, and never mentioned places like Chicago, where hundreds of Blacks are being murdered by other Blacks. This hypocritical selective outrage is not doing either community any good. It's jusy turnng people on each other, with the new White Privilege concept being an example.
Clearly the over-hype of black oppression is politically motivated. However, that has no bearing on the insanity of arguing Obama is not Black because his mother was white. His physical appearance alone voids that argument.
Now, are there people of mixed race who do not look Black? Yes. Would I classify them as not Black. Yes. Is the president on of them? No.
Ah, so we judge what race you are (at least the left does) based on skin color, and screw your factual racial make up. Nice.
Well, to get technical we are all human race. But, we do judge color on...color.
Well, speak for yourself on that one.
I agree 100% but also believe that too much s made of skin color. I'm on the side of MLK who had a dream that people should be judged on the content of their character rather than the color of their skin.Clearly the over-hype of black oppression is politically motivated. However, that has no bearing on the insanity of arguing Obama is not Black because his mother was white. His physical appearance alone voids that argument.
Now, are there people of mixed race who do not look Black? Yes. Would I classify them as not Black. Yes. Is the president on of them? No.
He is the first Black president. Don't be obtuse.
That said, this whole "woe is the Black man in the US" thing is getting stale. If Blacks really gave a ****, they would stop killing each other.
Wow, you are really grasping at straws now! This is getting good... what else did I say now? Hang on, let me get some popcorn and you can continue. Or just smarten up and stop.
Are you talking about people that are mostly black, and have other races mixed in? Because I am not. I am talking about Obama, touted as the first black president, who is just as much from the white race as he is from the black race.
In my opinion he is not the first back president, that is reserved for an actual majority black person that gets elected president.
Oh. Look at you - your rebuttals are comprised of nothing but juvenile banter now. This is my first time bothering with you - but I've seen your previous "debates", if we can even call them that, you usually give up so easily and then hide behind feigned nonchalance. Nothing new here. I'll accept your concession that you said something stupid that would utterly render the terms "black" and "white" meaningless and that you acknowledge that you were called out on it.
I'm not sure why February is Black History Month, but this is what I think of as relevant and important to commemorate and note when I think of Black History. Perhaps March would be a better month, so the history of this event and what led to it can be carried forward and discussed.
To those who question if President Obama is black because he has a white mother, that's just asinine in my view. Your entire ancestry is part of who you are and your heritage. My family traces back to English, Irish and French - perhaps why we fight so much - but all of it is part of all of us. It's petty to claim Obama isn't the first black President.
Perhaps the people in Ferguson, Missouri could take a cue from the people who marched to Selma, Alabama 50 years ago, in peace and harmony, with love in their hearts and no weapons in their hands or hate on their agenda. They might find some compromise and solutions if they did.
Looks like you are the one that said something factually wrong, stupid to use your jargon, and you refuse to admit it and are, quite obviously, trying to twist the entire argument.
You know that I stated that Obama is as much white as he is black, you refused to accept that, because you so desperately want him to be just black, forget the white part. And you just can't bare to face the facts. You just make yourself look worse with every post.
So go ahead, take me to task, show me what I posted that was wrong, not the twists and turns that you are trying to attribute to me.
Maybe most of us are just past racism and tired fo the BS. WE'll never forget, but it doesn't define us.
I already did take you to task.
I mean just look at the transformation. You went from bemoaning liberals to being a conservative cowering behind deflections. Good luck trying to make me look bad, but from my vantage point that person is you.
Yep. Racism is cured. There is basically no such thing as racism anymore. /sarcasm
Oh there is. There is a whole party of political belief centered on how minorities cannot succeed without the help and guidance of rich white people. A whole political ideology that says "You are not smart enough, good enough or able to get ahead in life without our benevolent care, guidance and support."
I happen to find that ideology repugnant myself, but you... embrace it.
Watching all the outrage that Obama is celebrating Black History Month really is amazing. :lol:
That's why blacks vote for dems. Because dems are racist against them and apparently African Americans are too stupid to know this. Nice spin. :lamo
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