Obama and Class Warfare

[Meathead]

Obama's legacy will forever be the president who started a war between Americans. At least Bush started wars with sleazy foreign elements. In an effort to secure the oval office for four more years for his failed presidency, Obama has stooped to a populist approach which will soon be out of his control. His State-of-the-Union speech has enshrined a historical failure bound to outlive his presidency and haunt America for decades.

Given the likes of some of the posters on this site and their degenerate allies in the OWS crowd which will reappear on the east coast in May, Obama has hatched a dumbed down self-righteous movement which will continue regardless of what happens in in November. The 99%'s broad appeal to the ignorant will not be denied.

 

[FilmFestGuy]

"We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy. [...] Do you think the millionaire ought to pay more in taxes than the bus driver or less?"

What crazy socialist said this?

 

[Your Star]

If what Obama has done, and said is class warfare, then so is what the republicans are doing, and saying about he people that pay no income tax.

 

[PeteEU]

Class warfare started in the US long ago and the ones that started it was the GOP and their defence of the ultra rich against the masses. When you have a society where the 1% pay in % much less in taxes than the 99% , then you have an automatic class warfare.

 

[Meathead]

Thank you both, but we alread have ample evidence of the 'dumbed down' part of my post.

 

[Mycroft]

While it's a given that politicians from all persuasions have used class warfare in one form or another, the point here is that Obama has staked his whole Presidency on this tactic.

You know, if he were smart enough...forward thinking enough...to really get results, it might almost be worth his while to use this tactic. But he's failed continuously. He's got nothing else and he'll do nothing for the People.

Face it, all you liberals...this will be Obama's legacy. History will remember him as the failed class warfare President.

 

[Temporal]

The honest response to the OP is that so-called class warfare has been a development of successive administrations, both Republican and Democrat. There has been a steady loosening of market regulation, especially in the financial sector, leading to untenable business practices. It's been compounded by outsourcing and a move toward a service based economy, and a desire to minimize input costs of production as much as possible.

What we really need is congressional reform that separates business from government, and further regulations on the financial sector. Neither party seems forthcoming about solutions to these problems, possibly because they are still in the pockets of major conglomerates.

The fact is, the U.S. is gradually becoming an economic backwater when it comes to production. The developing world - China, India, South America - holds most of our production facilities now. The service sector has become over-saturated by degree holders and the unionized sectors have stagnated.

People need more work in order for this economic situation to improve, but unlike the 1930's we now live in a highly globalized infrastructure with complex interdependence. I don't really see where these American jobs can possibly come from.

 

[hazlnut]

Obama's legacy will forever be the president who started a war between Americans. At least Bush started wars with sleazy foreign elements. In an effort to secure the oval office for four more years for his failed presidency, Obama has stooped to a populist approach which will soon be out of his control. His State-of-the-Union speech has enshrined a historical failure bound to outlive his presidency and haunt America for decades.

Given the likes of some of the posters on this site and their degenerate allies in the OWS crowd which will reappear on the east coast in May, Obama has hatched a dumbed down self-righteous movement which will continue regardless of what happens in in November. The 99%'s broad appeal to the ignorant will not be denied.

The crap spewed by Sean Hannity oozes onto DP...

Did someone buy toilet paper to wipe this mess up?

 

[d0gbreath]

Last night Obama said "Americans don't envy the rich, they admire them". There's some truth to that.

 

[TheNextEra]

Obama's legacy will forever be the president who started a war between Americans.

Bush started the divide with his "You are either with us or against us" rhetoric. The divide has simply been growing larger. Bush was a divider, not a uniter.

 

[hazlnut]

Last night Obama said "Americans don't envy the rich, they admire them". There's some truth to that.

Wait, if Obama said it, then Foxies and Righties are not allowed to see it as truthful or positive in any way, form, or shape...

 

[hazlnut]

Obama's legacy will forever be the president who started a war between Americans.

Divide implies equal parts.... 1% and 99% hardly equal.

Although the Foxies are confused about what side they are on.

BTW -- many 1%ers know the game is rigged and are ashamed of it. They support Obama too.

 

[Mycroft]

Bush started the divide with his "You are either with us or against us" rhetoric. The divide has simply been growing larger. Bush was a divider, not a uniter.

???

Did somebody change the thread title when I wasn't looking? I'd better check...nope, it still says "Obama and Class Warfare".

Don't see anything there about Bush.


So it goes.

 

[TheNextEra]

???

Did somebody change the thread title when I wasn't looking? I'd better check...nope, it still says "Obama and Class Warfare".

Don't see anything there about Bush.


So it goes.

American division didn't just suddenly begin with Obama. Sorry you don't like facts in the way of your foaming of the mouth rant on Obama.

 

[Risky Thicket]

Is it class warfare when the wealthy ruling class call for, initiate and profit from war and middle and lower classes fight and die in it?

 

[disneydude]

I love it how Republicans LOVE to label it "class warfare" when the tax policies put more money in the pockets of working and middle class Americans....however, when GOP policies result in millions more in the pockets of the 1%....they are deathly silent.

 

[sawyerloggingon]

Dems have been using the divide and conquer strategy a long time, obama is doubling down on it.

 

[hazlnut]

???

Did somebody change the thread title when I wasn't looking? I'd better check...nope, it still says "Obama and Class Warfare".

Don't see anything there about Bush.


So it goes.

So we're not allowed to correct the misguided and misinformed poster who has no sense of history, context, and... you know, facts?

 

[hazlnut]

Dems have been using the divide and conquer strategy a long time, obama is doubling down on it.

That Sean Hannity crap is getting all over this thread...

Hurry, someone bring more toilet paper so we can wipe it up!!

 

[Meathead]

Bush started the divide with his "You are either with us or against us" rhetoric. The divide has simply been growing larger. Bush was a divider, not a uniter.

A bit silly really. I'm pretty sure he was addressing foreign countries and not Americans. America is certainly a divided country today and probably moreso than since the aftermath of the Civil War. Obama is driving the wedge further in desperation to cling to power. Instead of just a weak presidency, this fool is setting himself up for a legacy of catastrophe.

 

[hazlnut]

A bit silly really. I'm pretty sure he was addressing foreign countries and not Americans. America is certainly a divided country today and probably moreso than since the aftermath of the Civil War. Obama is driving the wedge further in desperation to cling to power. Instead of just a weak presidency, this fool is setting himself up for a legacy of catastrophe.

It's like Sean Hannity got diarrhea of the mouth...

We're gonna need a bucket and a mop if this keeps up... Yuck.

 

[TheNextEra]

I'm pretty sure he was addressing foreign countries and not Americans. America is certainly a divided country today and probably moreso than since the aftermath of the Civil War. Obama is driving the wedge further in desperation to cling to power. Instead of just a weak presidency, this fool is setting himself up for a legacy of catastrophe.

you are free to think that of Bush, but the fact remains as a country during the Bush presidency we were divided. Has Obama divided the country? Absolutley. Did Bush as well? Yes.

The difference? Conservatives and the GOP supported Bush's division by voting for him a second time. Sounds like most of the right really doesn't care about division as long as it is an R in front of the president's name.

 

[Lovebug]

Now wait a minute.
Closing tax loopholes isn't a bad thing, or is it? If it is, WHY?
Shouldn't we all pay a fair share?
And what about the "tax cuts for job creation" the RINOs keep harping about?
How many years shall we wait for jobs to be created, instead of being sent overseas for ever increasing profit?

 

[hazlnut]

Now wait a minute.
Closing tax loopholes isn't a bad thing, or is it? If it is, WHY?

Because Obama said it in a speech.

Shouldn't we all pay a fair share?
And what about the "tax cuts for job creation" the RINOs keep harping about?
How many years shall we wait for jobs to be created, instead of being sent overseas for ever increasing profit?

Shhh, this thread is about Obama, not fair interjecting facts and context.

 

[Meathead]

It's like Sean Hannity got diarrhea of the mouth...

We're gonna need a bucket and a mop if this keeps up... Yuck.

I guess you're one of these guys that go to Fox News anytime you can't come up with some other response. In this case it is certainly inapplicable as I left the US in 1990 and have never watched Fox or Hannity. Some of us are capable of forming and expressing our own thoughts beyond the default Fox News response.