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Picked up 5 boxes of 85 gr. 9mm at Sportsman Warehouse at around $6.00 per box. Hell that's cheaper than 115 ball for drilling holes in paper.Ever considered frangible ammunition?
Maybe a magazine with lots and lots of naked women?what is a HIGH CAPACITY MAGAZINE?
Maybe a magazine with lots and lots of naked women?
I worked for a cattle rancher in 1980 between George and Quincy WA. and we had a Brucellosis outbreak. A .22 l.r. out of a pistol was iffy,however out of a rifle no problem. But like you noted it was a well placed shot.I disagree, in my time as a on farm butcher I have seen many cattle between 1500 and 2000 lbs dropped with one well placed shot from a .22 mag...
Long as that thingy pops up.:mrgreen:"banana boob clip?"
I disagree, in my time as a on farm butcher I have seen many cattle between 1500 and 2000 lbs dropped with one well placed shot from a .22 mag...
It would have to be a very well placed shot indeed. Not something I would care to risk while in a life or death situation. The bigger the round, the less accurate you will need to be. Which is one of the reasons why the 0.65 caliber 12-guage is such an effective defensive firearm. It is also the caliber of my choice, and I'm defending against 10 foot tall, 1,400 pound brown bears. I just bought an AR12 last year to replace my well-used 35 year-old Mossberg Model 500. I also keep a .44 Mag revolver as back-up, because it is damn difficult to cast for salmon while carrying a shotgun, but my primary camp gun is my AR12.
The problem is trying to minimize the negative effect a missed round would have if it killed or injured my next door neighbor. Seven .22 Magnum rounds will at least slow down an attacker. A snub-nosed handgun is not known for accuracy.
Granted, cattle will actually hold still and look at you most of the time.
We once had a steer that was hard to get a shot at because he wouldn't stop walking up and licking the barrel of the rifle.
A .22mag is not the choice I would make for bear protection either but I wouldn't dismiss it's ability to be lethal...
I disagree, in my time as a on farm butcher I have seen many cattle between 1500 and 2000 lbs dropped with one well placed shot from a .22 mag...
The key to that was the "well placed" part...
The problem is trying to minimize the negative effect a missed round would have if it killed or injured my next door neighbor. Seven .22 Magnum rounds will at least slow down an attacker. A snub-nosed handgun is not known for accuracy.
#4 tactical buckshot out of a 12 G semi auto has both great stopping power and won't penetrate as deep into a wall as a 22 Mag
You are also likely to blow a 12" diameter hole in any interior wall with a 12-guage firing buck shot, as opposed to a quarter inch hole created by a .22 cal. So it really depends on how much Spackle you want to use to fix the holes in your walls.
GREENVILLE, Ky. — Parents and students trickled into the Muhlenberg County High School gym on a hot Saturday night as the sounds of cheers and a referee’s whistle carried from an athletic field nearby. Inside the “Home of the Mustangs,” Friends of NRA was raffling off guns: semi-automatic rifles and handguns, guns with high-capacity magazines and pump-action shotguns.
In the past two years, the NRA Foundation’s fundraising program had displayed actual guns along the wooden bleachers in the gym. This time organizers showed only pictures, bowing to objections from parents who pointed to a shooting at another western Kentucky high school last year that left two students dead and more than a dozen wounded.
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What's wrong with this picture? The NRA (via its 'Foundation') is actively merchandising handguns, semiautomatic long guns, high-capacity magazines & pump-action shotguns in public schools & other locations. I thought they existed to protect our 2nd A. rights. Instead they seem to be actively promoting gun ownership across the country.
hit someone in the chest with a 22Mag (and he best be trying to kill you to justify the shooting), the target might well be able to stab you to death and certainly shoot you. Hit him in the chest at 7 yards or in (95 % of defensive shootings take place within 7 yards) with a load of federal tactical (2 3/4 dram powder load-same as a skeet or quail load) #4 buck and the chances of the mope shooting you or stabbing you is less than about 2% (assume he isn't wearing body armor)
The Marine Corps pistol qualifications also used 7 meters for quick reaction drills. There is also a 15 meter sustained fire, requiring a magazine change, and a 25 meter slow fire. There are a total of 400 possible points in 40 shots, and it requires a minimum score of 290 to qualify as Marksman. A score between 330 and 344 qualifies them as Sharpshooter, and a score above 344 qualifies them as an Expert marksman with a pistol.
FYI, the above were the qualifications for the M1911 .45 ACP. I left the Marine Corps before they deployed the Beretta 92F in 1981, so I don't know if they changed their qualification as a result.
The onion?
mafia cleaners favored 22 rimfire for hits
several reasons
low noise-especially with suppressed pistols
tracing hollow point 22 rounds with the soft lead bullets is much tougher than jacketed rounds out of a 9mm or a 5
The shots were usually very close-back of the head stuff
I saw a tape of a mob hit in NJ courtesy of the FBI who had been surveilling a "rat". the victim was walking down a street in Newark IIRC, the street was somewhat crowded. The cleaner was right behind him with a 22 High standard semi auto pistol with a suppressor attached, hidden under a folded newspaper. As the victim turned the corner on a street block, the hitter kept going straight but raised his gun (hidden by the corner of the building) and shot the victim twice in the back of the head and crossed the street. a block down, he dumbed the newspaper with the pistol into a garbage can. People right behind the hitter didn't see it
It is illegal to use a rim-fire round on a large game animal in Alaska (with one very rare exception). You certainly wouldn't want to use one for self-defense, unless you were suicidal. A .22 caliber round is definitely NOT using the right tool for the job if that job is self-defense. You are trying to make due with a ball-peen hammer when only a sledge-hammer will work.
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