wxcrazytwo
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The fact that you neglected to show anything from the article is telling...We can just go by the headers...wxcrazytwo said:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9593793/
There goes the separation between church and state. We do not need some holy roller deciding cases.
cnredd said:The fact that you neglected to show anything from the article is telling...We can just go by the headers...
Church ties could shed light on Miers’ thinking
Faith in Jesus has shaped court pick’s personal values
EVERYONE has personal values...The question is whether or not they leave them by the front door when it's time to do their job...
Imagine how many times a justice, Supreme or not, has gone home feeling absolutely crappy because they HAD to judge an arguement based on the law and not their own feelings...
This sentence in your article reveals the OPPOSITE of what you claim...
Hecht and other confidants of Miers all pledge that if the Senate confirms her nomination to the Supreme Court, her judicial values will be guided by the law and the Constitution. But they say her personal values have been shaped by her abiding faith in Jesus, and by her membership in the massive red-brick Valley View Christian Church, where she was baptized as an adult, served on the missions committee and taught religious classes.
They all believe in her ability to "separate personal values from the Constitution"....which is EXACTLY the kind of justice one would wish for...
According to your logic, very religious people could NOT be made justices, based purely on "church heresay" and personal life and not by documents written by the nominee...
If she was involved in a legal argument for or against abortion, what she'd done or what she'd written would be a valid argument...
When she puts her briefcase down and walks back through the front door?...Nope...
wxcrazytwo said:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9593793/
There goes the separation between church and state. We do not need some holy roller deciding cases.
aps said:Crazy, you're funny! I love the term "holy roller." I have now decided that I oppose her nomination, and not because of this article--it's based upon everything I have read and heard about her.
You gotta source for that 80%-20% thing or are you just throwing out numbers?wxcrazytwo said:I doubt it. The decisisions by the SUP.CT are about 80% of the time based on feelings and 20% the law. The law is their guidance, but the true feelings may shape the way they decent. There have been may decisions based on how one feels about the case and only on strong precedent will they make an decision that goes against their feelings..
So I see my previous statement holds true...wxcrazytwo said:It probably would not be a problem, if she had a track record, but now that she is a "holy roller", it totally changes things. I, if I was an attorney would not want to argue cases and have her cite scripture. I get enough that in school.
cnredd said:So I see my previous statement holds true...
According to your logic, very religious people could NOT be made justices...:roll:
kal-el said:She sounds like another lunatic to me. Just like Bush. If they both believe in Jesus so much, how could they miss his most famous teaching? "Love your enemies"
kal-el said:She sounds like another lunatic to me. Just like Bush. If they both believe in Jesus so much, how could they miss his most famous teaching? "Love your enemies"
MiamiFlorida said:You know of anyone who loves his enemies?
MiamiFlorida said:You know of anyone who loves his enemies?
wxcrazytwo said:this speaks volumes:
wxcrazytwo said:Yes, the whole Bush Cabinet..
This is beautiful...From your first post...wxcrazytwo said:Jeese, I just read it. You just like a typical conserv tries to hurry people so they rush to judgment without making a very valid and sound rebuttal. In reference to your last statement "HELL YES." I don't want scripture when I read their opinions or cite the cases they pass down. How the hell do you cite scripture anyways. Exactly, you can't with regards to legal specs.
wxcrazytwo said:this speaks volumes:
kal-el said:Haha, you're joking right? They are Satan's entourage, masqerading as Christians.
wxcrazytwo said:It probably would not be a problem, if she had a track record, but now that she is a "holy roller", it totally changes things. I, if I was an attorney would not want to argue cases and have her cite scripture. I get enough that in school.
Harshaw said:Dude, you're pretty good at hating your enemies yourself.
Harshaw said:Man, you have no idea how the law works, then, do you?
wxcrazytwo said:Uh, I have been in the legal field for 8 years. Yeah, I have no idea how the law works.
Harshaw said:Which is where you got your 80/20 rule, no doubt.
wxcrazytwo said:It was a rough estimate.
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