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So tell me how globalization makes the 3rd world worse off than they were before globalization. I'm dying to hear this.
 
phattonez said:
So tell me how globalization makes the 3rd world worse off than they were before globalization. I'm dying to hear this.
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It depends on the nation of course and how well they can compete

Mexico did well with globalization up untill China became a dominate manufacturer of cheap goods. One reason why the number of Mexica illegal immigrants has skyrocketed over the last decade or so

South East asian countries once called the Tiger economies as they were gearing up for low cost manufacturing has seen much of that go to China as well. They have had to refocus and are becoming exporters of raw materials to China rather then producers of value added goods
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
It depends on the nation of course and how well they can compete

Mexico did well with globalization up untill China became a dominate manufacturer of cheap goods. One reason why the number of Mexica illegal immigrants has skyrocketed over the last decade or so

South East asian countries once called the Tiger economies as they were gearing up for low cost manufacturing has seen much of that go to China as well. They have had to refocus and are becoming exporters of raw materials to China rather then producers of value added goods
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There's no comparative advantage? And there are no other things holding back Mexico and South East Asian countries?
 
phattonez said:
There's no comparative advantage? And there are no other things holding back Mexico and South East Asian countries?
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Comparative advantage assumes egalitarian distribution of the benefits to some extent. In a lot of underdeveloped countries this isn't the case; a lot of the "benefits" are diverted to corrupt officials, exported from the country or hoarded by domestic upper-classes. And this isn't even addressing the problems associated with specialization.

BTW what's your take on immigration (both legal and illegal)?
 
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phattonez said:
There's no comparative advantage? And there are no other things holding back Mexico and South East Asian countries?
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China has a better comparative advantage then Mexico or SE Asia

It has hundreds of millions of people who want to work (have to work) and are willing to do so for comparatively little. It also has a government that has worked hard to provide the infrustructure that is required for the manufacture, transportation and export/import of materials that has allowed it to become a manufacturing powerhouse (along with very weak environemtnal, safety and labour laws)

Coruption in all is pretty dramatic, although China does have the occasional roundup of the corrupt followed by execution of them.

China can only be beat in areas that it does not yet have the technical expertise in, which of course can change over time. China does not have much of a domestic commercial plane industry, but I expect that will change in time. Or in areas of natural resources (food to oil to metals ect) that China does not have much in the way of
 
Khayembii Communique said:
Comparative advantage assumes egalitarian distribution of the benefits to some extent. In a lot of underdeveloped countries this isn't the case; a lot of the "benefits" are diverted to corrupt officials, exported from the country or hoarded by domestic upper-classes. And this isn't even addressing the problems associated with specialization.
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Hoarded? You mean saved? And by saved it gives people in the country some access to capital? That would be great for growth!

Though the problem you speak of corrupt officials is a problem with the government and not globalization itself.

BTW what's your take on immigration (both legal and illegal)?
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Let anyone in as long as they're not going to spread terrible diseases and as long as they're not criminals. Don't just shower them with benefits. Make them pay taxes before they are eligible for anything.
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
China has a better comparative advantage then Mexico or SE Asia

It has hundreds of millions of people who want to work (have to work) and are willing to do so for comparatively little. It also has a government that has worked hard to provide the infrustructure that is required for the manufacture, transportation and export/import of materials that has allowed it to become a manufacturing powerhouse (along with very weak environemtnal, safety and labour laws)

Coruption in all is pretty dramatic, although China does have the occasional roundup of the corrupt followed by execution of them.

China can only be beat in areas that it does not yet have the technical expertise in, which of course can change over time. China does not have much of a domestic commercial plane industry, but I expect that will change in time. Or in areas of natural resources (food to oil to metals ect) that China does not have much in the way of
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Do you know what comparative advantage is? No, Mexico probably doesn't have an upperhand over China in basically anything, but it can do the work that China isn't as good at even though China is better at it, because doing that other thing would mean less production for China, so better that Mexico does it because it would be the best that they could do.
 
phattonez said:
Do you know what comparative advantage is? No, Mexico probably doesn't have an upperhand over China in basically anything, but it can do the work that China isn't as good at even though China is better at it, because doing that other thing would mean less production for China, so better that Mexico does it because it would be the best that they could do.
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Yes I do and while it is a good at explaining many things it fails when discussing large countries that have surplus's in both capital and in labour.


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Full employment - if one or other of the economies has less than full employment of factors of production, then this excess capacity must usually be used up before the comparative advantage reasoning can be applied.
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[ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparative_advantage]Comparative advantage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

Nor does it account for governmental interference in protecting or encouraging the development of industries
 
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