Do you realize that his death was not and in fact COULD not be a 'homicide' as there has been no jury ruling or court finding that the officer was guilty of a deliberate and unlawful killing of an individual? DO you realize the autopsy described NUMEROUS contributing factors including weight, asthma, apnea, cardiac, etc?Do you realize his death was ruled a homicide? I'll give you a clue. Homicide doesn't mean he died because of an asthma attack. Please keep making stuff up. It's fun to see you play the real vs. fake game.
That wasn't even the reason he was initially confronted.
Go watch some more Dragnet.If that was "Agitated" those cops need to take up knitting, police work is not for them. Being mad at harrassment is not being "Aggressive" and his only "resisting" began when that dude put the choke in.
It is not illegal to tell a cop to go **** himself.
and if a cop "hooks you up" for doing so, he should lose his job.
What was he charged with except not accepting state tyranny by allowing himself to be submissive to an officer who had NO reason to hassle him?
Do you suggest we, as citizens of the United States, to simply do as we're told whenever an officer gives us an order?
Resisting.
Really? Five cops approached and confronted him, why then?
Then don't expect for them to treat you with kid gloves.
No speak, fine. Cuffed until we find out who called and why and if you are part of the issue. Still wont talk, you are obstructing. To jail you go.
Do you realize that his death was not and in fact COULD not be a 'homicide'
An autopsy by the city’s medical examiner found that Mr. Garner’s death was a homicide resulting from the chokehold — a maneuver banned by the Police Department in 1993 — and the compression of his chest by police
as there has been no jury ruling or court finding that the officer was guilty of a deliberate and unlawful killing of an individual?
To begin with, not all homicides are crimes. Homicides include all killings of humans. Many homicides, such as murder and manslaughter, violate criminal laws. Others, such as a killing committed in justified self-defense, are not criminal. Illegal killings range from manslaughter to murder, with multiple degrees of each representing the gravity of the crime. - See more at: Homicide Definition - FindLaw
Homicide is when one human being causes the death of another. Not all homicide is murder, as some killings are manslaughter, and some are lawful, such as when justified by an affirmative defense, like insanity or self-defense.
You clearly have zero understanding of the law.
You can't be "caught red-handed" resisting arrest.
Police were called. He was there and part of some melee or fight. Was told to stand down, turn around, and be detained until it was figured out who the bad guys were.
He got loud and agitated. Bad idea.
Sure they are,
In one you defended a man resisting lawful government action.
In the other, you supported police harming an unarmed civilian for selling untaxed cigarettes.
Those are two different issues in which your inconsistent positions on accountability are more than obvious.
Never had any of my arrests questioned.
Troubles me that one there is a law against selling individual cigs. But two, he there is that law and he broke in many times.Just as an aside, I've been reading through this thread - I'm a slow reader and I like to get everyone's take - and I'm heartened by the number of people of all walks and all political ideologies who are, like myself, troubled by this event. While I don't know that the officer would have been convicted, I believe a trial on a lesser charge would have allowed the community to pass judgement more fully and would have informed the police on community standards as they relate to police enforcement.
Who died at the Bundy Ranch?
Yes you can, its a crime.
If a person can say "I can't breathe" that means the person is NOT being chocked. It would more likely indicate 1.) a heart problem 2.) a lung problem or 3.) being crushed.
It would NOT indicate being chocked. If a person is chocking the person is unable to speak (obviously).
Troubles me that one there is a law against selling individual cigs. But two, he there is that law and he broke in many times.
Dude was not a saint and was well known to the police. Never ends well for anyone.
Please stop lying.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/04/n...land-chokehold-death-of-eric-garner.html?_r=0
Homicide doesn't mean what you think it means. Do you know what homicide means? I'll give you some tips:
Homicide Definition - FindLaw
Homicide | Wex Legal Dictionary / Encyclopedia | LII / Legal Information Institute
Please bring up the dictionary definition of homicide as an argument against the definitions I've plucked from Cornell's University's faculty of law.
I was not aware that the penalty for "resisting arrest," which this guy barely did and no police were in danger in any way, was death.
Have you, or have you not arrested someone for not indicting themselves for something they refused to say?
Never had any of my arrests questioned.
If he was indeed well-known to police, then they knew he was no danger to anyone. They were elephants stomping a flea.
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