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There's justice everywhere, in everything, Michael. In a drop of rain. In the death of a sun.I think there's a small degree of indirect justice in that evil people sometimes attack other evil people....
I think there's a small degree of indirect justice in that evil people sometimes attack other evil people. When we discuss the good versus evil debate we often forget there's an evil versus evil fight going on too. For instance in the ancient world the evil barbarians inflicted casualties on the sinister Romans. Even though many get away with their crimes, what goes around often comes around.
I think there's a small degree of indirect justice in that evil people sometimes attack other evil people. When we discuss the good versus evil debate we often forget there's an evil versus evil fight going on too. For instance in the ancient world the evil barbarians inflicted casualties on the sinister Romans. Even though many get away with their crimes, what goes around often comes around.
I wouldn't be so sure, entropy is the rule not the exception.Evil people might win in the short-term but not the long-term.
Victim? Who among us is so innocent as to claim the totality of consequences of their choices isn't suffering and tragedy? I agree, good people don’t attack other good individuals, but circumstances themselves can be tragic. I can't see how that would make the universe evil. Circumstances don't have intent, tragedy isn't personal.I’m simply making the point that evil on the whole can’t truly be said to have won against generally good people seeing as evil itself is internally divided. So we don’t necessarily even need to rely on karma in this life or hell in the afterlife to overcome the problem of evil. Good people don’t attack other good individuals. Therefore mathematical probability dictates that collectively there’ll always be more casualties on the evil side as they have an extra category of evil vs evil victims.
If you spends time with people in great pain. It's hard to miss the greatest sources of pain come from the fear one can not handle more. This resistance being the true source of meaningful anguish. Let go and pain becomes rather meaningless, temporary and momentary. I think it is the same with 'hard choices' where our fears of being unable to handle the consequences are the sources of our greatest folly.So maybe the possibility of evil is an inevitable consequence of the way we can improvise and adapt to the changing environment. It would be like the way thievery is a warped distortion of the otherwise understandable desire to get rewards without wasting time or overexertion and with less effort.
When we spend enough time listening, we notice despite being born in a way where our perspectives can only include everything but ourselves, our number one topic remains the self we can not see. Our judgements of evil coming from recognizing in others a reflection of evil within. I don't think the actual universe cares if we commit evil or not. Only we do. These judgements feedback to guide us on the path out of hell, which is the inevitable consequences of these evil choices manifesting in sum.Even though it’s somewhat circular, it’s true that technically no one is forced to do evil and it’s possible that absolutely everyone freely chooses to do good. That would nevertheless be impossibly unlikely so the “Universe” or whatever must have had the foresight to predict that many people would commit evil actions.
It might be true that the physical universe doesn’t care if we commit evil but of course we’re still part of the universe and we certainly care about ourselves! So that means there’s a small bit of the universe at least that’s in some way caring even if that sounds self-referential. So the more we care about each other the more the universe cares about us.I don't think the actual universe cares if we commit evil or not. Only we do.
Thankfully most people don’t come across pure evil in their own lives even though we can hear about it in the news. It can be difficult then to fully appreciate the severity of the problem. But we’ve all come across slightly mean people and notice how rude people will be often rude to each other. We certainly don’t need hell to deal with these minor incidents! I suppose the same argument could be made for much more evil crimes even though it’s on too large of a scale for us to fully understand it.These judgements feedback to guide us on the path out of hell, which is the inevitable consequences of these evil choices manifesting in sum.
While pain can sometimes make us stronger or more resilient, evil actions will always be overpowering and much more harmful. But if there’s any consolation at all to be found from encountering evil, perhaps it’s that it can instil in us to be nothing like those bad individuals. So the more despicable we find a certain crime, the more it can motivate us to live virtuous lives by contrast.hate eventually leads to love
“Creatures can use freedom for good or evil; evil results from improper creaturely use of freedom. The free will defense solution to the problem of evil provides a basis for claiming that creatures, not God, are culpable for the genuine evil that occurs.”
Free Will Defense | Encyclopedia.com
Free Will Defense The occurrence of evil, despite the existence of a perfectly loving and perfectly powerful God, poses a theoretical and existential problem. Source for information on Free Will Defense: Encyclopedia of Science and Religion dictionary.www.encyclopedia.com
People need to be functionally free or flexible in order to simply move, perceive objects and to set their long-term goals. So maybe the possibility of evil is an inevitable consequence of the way we can improvise and adapt to the changing environment. It would be like the way thievery is a warped distortion of the otherwise understandable desire to get rewards without wasting time or overexertion and with less effort. So in some respects perhaps the “Universe” wouldn’t be able to remove the thoughts of committing evil by some sinister people even if “it” tried to remove their free will by altering their brain. Free will may not only be required for just self-fulfilment or spiritual objectives. It might be needed for mundane short-term acts like walking where we need to feel and balance the different forces on our legs.
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“Evil as the absence of good and human responsibility. God did not create evil. Human beings were created good, with a good will. Evil comes from disordered/misdirected love.”
That argument is a nice spiritual metaphor. Although I’m unsure if it could be translated to materialistic logic. For example, it’s a bit like inverting the force of heat and saying instead that heat is an absence of cold where coldness is the active force. Even though it’s somewhat circular, it’s true that technically no one is forced to do evil and it’s possible that absolutely everyone freely chooses to do good. That would nevertheless be impossibly unlikely so the “Universe” or whatever must have had the foresight to predict that many people would commit evil actions.
“The butterfly effect is the idea that small things can have non-linear impacts on a complex system. The concept is imagined with a butterfly flapping its wings and causing a typhoon.
Of course, a single act like the butterfly flapping its wings cannot cause a typhoon. Small events can, however, serve as catalysts that act on starting conditions.”
If people have free will, then the medium through which they interact (namely the physical world) would also probably have to be a bit chaotic or uncertain. Natural disasters might be a passive result of the inner chaos and intrinsic randomness of the physical world.
If it was down to pure chance then you’d expect 50% of the world’s population to choose good and the remaining 50% to side with evil. Ideally there’d be 0% evil. It does sound pessimistic that half of the world isn’t evil anyway and most are virtuous. Perhaps that shows that there’s some trace of common good that’s hardwired into us.The Romans and Barbarians were evil?
If it was down to pure chance then you’d expect 50% of the world’s population to choose good and the remaining 50% to side with evil. Ideally there’d be 0% evil. It does sound pessimistic that half of the world isn’t evil anyway and most are virtuous. Perhaps that shows that there’s some trace of common good that’s hardwired into us.
I think there's a small degree of indirect justice in that evil people sometimes attack other evil people. When we discuss the good versus evil debate we often forget there's an evil versus evil fight going on too. For instance in the ancient world the evil barbarians inflicted casualties on the sinister Romans. Even though many get away with their crimes, what goes around often comes around.
Your OP reminds me of algebra class: When bad things (take negative number) happen to bad people (and add it to another negative number) the result is a good thing (equals a positive).
I agree with you that some evil people can escape punishment and “win” or grow stronger. Although I don’t think they’ll always be stronger than both combined. For example a conquering army will always suffer some casualties even if they defeat their opponents and take their land.That is, at best, a wash. In the real world it id a net negative since the winner often walks away with more power than the two had independently.
True; but powerful evil people will eventually encounter other potent adversaries their own size even if they can take out the small-time competition.Hundreds of small time evil people working against one another do less harm than a single person monopolizing the power of one hundred small time criminals can.
Evil actions are irrational from most people’s perspective. Hence it can sometimes be difficult to rationally understand the motives of those who commit evil. We can try to recognise the general themes that make individuals want to commit evil like greed, selfishness and indifference towards others. The way aggression is often unexpected can make it harder to objectively assess how much it reflects a person’s character coming from “within” or whether it was a temporary mishap.Our judgements of evil coming from recognizing in others a reflection of evil within.
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