DeeJayH
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Deegan said:Disgusting, to use the death of this soldier to advance some agenda, have they no honor, no respect?
hipsterdufus said:You're making a joke about the Republicans politicising Pat Tillman as a war hero during the 2004 election right? Very clever! :mrgreen:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4815441/
Of course Pat Tillman was killed by friendly fire, which was withheld from his family. Tilman was against the war in Iraq, a big fan of Noam Chomsky, and hoped to meet him on his return.
DeeJayH said:Politicians Politicizing something?
how does that pertain to an 'Unbiased news source' falsely reporting *coughs* lying *coughs* to the people
hipsterdufus said:You're making a joke about the Republicans politicising Pat Tillman as a war hero during the 2004 election right? Very clever! :mrgreen:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4815441/
Of course Pat Tillman was killed by friendly fire, which was withheld from his family. Tilman was against the war in Iraq, a big fan of Noam Chomsky, and hoped to meet him on his return.
aps said:Hipster! Thank you! I was just about to address this very issue. To me, the Pat Tillman scandal was so much worse.....so much worse.
Assuming this story is true, that is very disappointing that the NYT would not provide the whole story. That newspaper is definitely liberal, but for the most part, I find them to be thorough. So I am wondering if this is true.
DeeJayH said:it is very true
it is in numerous sources online, in print and on tv
what happened to tillman was a disgrace
but it was done by the military and the politicians NOT the so called unbiased media who is supposed to report 'just the facts ma'am'
and believe it or not, there is a ton of liberals who do NOT see a liberal slant in the rubbish known as the NYTimes
aps said:The editorials are totally biased, but I am not sure about the news articles. I personally don't see a bias, but I'm sure republicans don't think that Fox News is biased.
To everyone who is saying that NYT was scuzzy and wrong, please see my prior post. The NYT said that Starr "believed strongly in the war." How is that not informing the reader that he believed in what he was fighting.
Inuyasha said:The NYT dropped the ball on this. It's not a paper i tend to read very much of late. I just like to get the news. I thinbk we are all capable of forming our own opinions if and when we have the facts. But that is a different subject.
On the other hand once a media whore like Malkin gets mixed up in something you know you have another kind of problem. I can't give this woman much creedence after hearing her speak and rerading her book. Here's a review that is pretty much on the money.
http://www.reason.com/0412/cr.em.indefensible.shtml
Once we are able to get the carpetbaggers, charlatans, mountbanks and robber barons out of the media maybe we will get the real news. A good start would be fpr example if the NYT would say "Yes we are liberal and proud of it." or if FNC would just come out and say "We are the flagship for conservative thinking on cable TV." I can respect that but these clowns want the whole 9 yards and that can't ever happen. I have no respect for the media at all anymore. it's as i said on another thread, $$$$ and to hell with the people. I read better editorials on this web site than i read in the newspaper. At least here people are honest and don't try to throw too much "newspeak" around.
hipsterdufus said:I agree with you that the NYT is a pretty liberal paper. It also serves a very liberal city - New York. What separates them from Fox is that I can also get the Right's side of events by reading David Brooks, Kristoff etc. There is no one on Fox that gives a counter-balance to stories. Especially not the mother of milk toast Allan Colmes.
Members of the NYT also publicly criticized Judith Miller for her shabby reporting on the build-up to the Iraq war. Judy Miller eventually retired after serving jail time for protecting a source.
Navy Pride said:Hmm, I would consider David Brooks at best a moderate.........How about Juan Williams, Greta Vanstrusen, Mara lyason., Geraldo Rivera.....They are all regular contributors to FOX..........
I do agree that FOX leans somewhat to the right but it is not near as bad as the left makes it out to be.....
hipsterdufus said:I don't have a problem with them leaning to the right. I do have a problem that they often report innuendo and rumors without any respect of the facts or checking sources.
Greta Van face lift - every time I listen to her she's dealing with missing white girls or sensationalised trials like Michael Jackson.
Whoraldo is a laughing stock, no one takes him seriously.
Mara is usually pretty restrianed on Fox. My guess is that she would get the heave ho if she spoke out more.
Juan Williams - I like his reporting for NPR, but on Fox News Sunday, he allows Brit Hume to dress him down verbally on national television. Williams will play the mealy mouthed Alan Colmes role for Brit Hume as long as they’ll have him.
hipsterdufus said:I don't have a problem with them leaning to the right. I do have a problem that they often report innuendo and rumors without any respect of the facts or checking sources.
Greta Van face lift - every time I listen to her she's dealing with missing white girls or sensationalised trials like Michael Jackson.
Whoraldo is a laughing stock, no one takes him seriously.
Mara is usually pretty restrianed on Fox. My guess is that she would get the heave ho if she spoke out more.
Juan Williams - I like his reporting for NPR, but on Fox News Sunday, he allows Brit Hume to dress him down verbally on national television. Williams will play the mealy mouthed Alan Colmes role for Brit Hume as long as they’ll have him.
Deegan said:This post does really expose your hatred, and arrogance, and it's you, and others like you on the left, that have made "liberal" a bad word, shame on you. "Whoraldo" "Greta Van face lift" who the hell are you to talk about these people like that, I hope you're not teaching your students to be so hateful and arrogant.
aps said:Why does this bother you so much? They are essentially celebrities. I could see you getting this upset if he was talking about your family or friends. Personally, I didn't think there was any evidence of hatred. The names he used are used widespread when people are criticizing him. He didn't invent those names. Sheesh.
Deegan said:They are people are they not? My Aunt happens to be a friend of Greta's, and her surgery was done because of a slight paralysis, not out of vanity. I also respect the job that Geraldo does for Fox, he puts himself on the line in every story he does, and the a**holes at the NYtimes lied about a story recently, and refused to acknowledge that fact for weeks. It may not bother you, but it bothers me, it also says a lot about the author, and how partisan they can be, no matter who it hurts, smears, or destroys.:roll:
I had been trying to find a article about her surgery, and I couldn't, so I called my Aunt, and I was wrong, I confused her case with someone else. I felt I should correct this, but I still think it's unacceptable to write the womans entire career accomplishments off because of a surgery that made her feel better about herself.
Deegan said:They are people are they not? My Aunt happens to be a friend of Greta's, and her surgery was done because of a slight paralysis, not out of vanity. I also respect the job that Geraldo does for Fox, he puts himself on the line in every story he does, and the a**holes at the NYtimes lied about a story recently, and refused to acknowledge that fact for weeks. It may not bother you, but it bothers me, it also says a lot about the author, and how partisan they can be, no matter who it hurts, smears, or destroys.:roll:
I had been trying to find a article about her surgery, and I couldn't, so I called my Aunt, and I was wrong, I confused her case with someone else. I felt I should correct this, but I still think it's unacceptable to write the womans entire career accomplishments off because of a surgery that made her feel better about herself.
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