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NFL, players have one easy answer for how to end protests on their own terms

trouble13

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I was surfing around trying to find out what the players did at last night's game, bit of a media blackout on that, and I came upon this article which illustrates the media opposition we are up against.

First off the title is revealing by expressing their desire that the issue is resolved on the players terms.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...rotests-roger-goodell-donald-trump/754607001/


She is only half right here but let's give her credit it's as close as she gets to being right in her entire editorial. It's true Goodell did not demand the players stand yet. He is strongly suggesting it. What she got wrong is who the dispute is with. It's not DJT, it is the fans. What DJT did was he gave the fans opinion legitimacy, and that's what has the panties in a bunch. Our self-righteous, American left bias media believes they are the ones in charge of defining the issues and they are the arbitrators of who is right and who is wrong.

This was not a fight the NFL wanted. Trump dragged the league into this one with his despicable, race-baiting, “son of a bitch” comment about anthem protesters in a political speech in Alabama nearly three weeks ago.
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Like clockwork she plays the race card. I'm not claiming either side is race baiting but a stronger case could be made that the players are the one guilty of it. They are not protesting police brutality for everyone. They are only concerned with police brutality against blacks.


Her solution shows how stupid she is, if she thinks the players not coming out or the networks thinking not telivising the snthem is going to convince the fans to return. She wrongly thinks the players can avoid making amends with fans and they will forgive and forget. Fans will not return until the players show contrition.


The solution is for the players to leave their politics out of our entertainment. It's not the role of the nfl to be an arm of the left wing medias crusades. If they insist on that they should be prepared to say goodbye to 20-30% of their fan base. Now the media and the hard left may be willing to make that sacrifice, but are the owners?


There's more stuff in the article that's just as backwards as the things I pointed out but I don't wanna drag it out too long and lose people's attention.

Curious who agrees with me, her, or you have another take on this. Share your thoughts.

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Just before reading this I saw a video of the wild fires in California, hundreds left homeless, more without an income....

Based on that I suggest you have priority issues and wayyyyyyy too much time on your hands.
 
Fearandloathing said:
Just before reading this I saw a video of the wild fires in California, hundreds left homeless, more without an income....

Based on that I suggest you have priority issues and wayyyyyyy too much time on your hands.
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Well damn with all that going on I'm sure you think it's silly for these players to be kneeling to draw attention on themselves and away from that.

You must be as equally upset with USA today for running the editorial.

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Fearandloathing said:
Just before reading this I saw a video of the wild fires in California, hundreds left homeless, more without an income....

Based on that I suggest you have priority issues and wayyyyyyy too much time on your hands.
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And yet, you insinuated that you read that long post -- and then posted yourself in the same thread, so, hmmmm...
 
Kneeling before the anthem appears to be the compromise on the table.
 
Fearandloathing said:
Please stop trolling me. I have no interest in your opinion on anything, and certainly NOT your trolling.
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I'm not trolling. I was reading the thread and found your comment to be quite odd, and condescending, given that you took the time to read the long post and then post yourself.

If you didn't want anyone to respond to your post -- why post it on a public forum? I saw your post as flame-baiting and simply questioned you as to whether you were being hypocritical.
 
ecofarm said:
Kneeling before the anthem appears to be the compromise on the table.
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That might play with some of the fans. It won't for me but I can see how for some it might. I can tell you staying in the locker room won't make the cut.

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trouble13 said:
That might play with some of the fans. It won't for me but I can see how for some it might. I can tell you staying in the locker room won't make the cut.

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How about no more anthem at televised sport events.
 
I found it odd that he offered no opinion on the topic. Why bother posting at all if the topic is of no interest to you

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Let the players stay in the clubhouse for the anthem. This is about a game not patriotism. Kick out any spectators that do not stand if you want.
 
trouble13 said:
I found it odd that he offered no opinion on the topic. Why bother posting at all if the topic is of no interest to you

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That's what I thought, too.

I also agree that kneeling before the anthem, or staying in the locker room is unlikely to be acceptable to the fans. I'm guessing the NFL is going to enforce a "stand at attention" rule after this.
 
ecofarm said:
How about no more anthem at televised sport events.
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I have never been a fan of the tradition so I am indifferent to that. That however does not resolve the current issue. My issue is the use of the nfl as a stage for political activism. This isn't an issue of patriotism for me. It's players who think they are entitled to demand I care about what they care about.

I find it just as wrong that they wear pink during breast cancer month. It's a fine charity but fronkly prostrate cancer is a more important issue to me but I don't demand the nfl get involved in it.

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iguanaman said:
Let the players stay in the clubhouse for the anthem. This is about a game not patriotism. Kick out any spectators that do not stand if you want.
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They are free to stay anywhere they want but that's not gonna convince me to start watching football. The fans asked them to stand and they are refusing. It's a non-negotiable issue.

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HowardBThiname said:
That's what I thought, too.

I also agree that kneeling before the anthem, or staying in the locker room is unlikely to be acceptable to the fans. I'm guessing the NFL is going to enforce a "stand at attention" rule after this.
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The nfl is trying hard to wiggle out of it any way they can. They miss the fans but they need the players too. By not doing something sooner they have put themselves in a hard spot.

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Fans have short memories.
 

Your issue seems different than everyone else. Perhaps you should notify the NFL or have stopped at the sexist and pink so kind of gayist assault on liberty and justice.

I find it just as wrong that they wear pink during breast cancer month. It's a fine charity but fronkly prostrate cancer is a more important issue to me but I don't demand the nfl get involved in it.
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What are the rates, severity, survival, etc for each? It should be a numbers thing. You can take care of yourself with early exams, so I don't get how it's personal.
 
Critter7r said:
Fans have short memories.
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That's what the nfl and the left are hoping. That raises another point why I think they hate DJT. His tweets keep it fresh in people's minds so they can't just let it fade away. They over played their hand and he isnt letting them slink away from it. They are gonna lose and he is making them own it.

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The numbers are not the point. The point is that the nfl is an entertainment product behaving like an activist organization. They have the right but I have the right to find another form of entertainment that does not do that. If the nfl wants my money they will stop if they don't they wont. I'm not personally outraged by this. I am just not interested in supporting their crusades

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iguanaman said:
So it was OK for "prime time" games prior to 2009 but now football is a political issue?
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The players made this a political issue. The NFL should have nipped it in the bud after Kaepernick knelt, but they didn't. Now, they have a bigger, more public issue to deal with, and they're in a spot where they're going to have to take steps that appease the fans.
 
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